Are we endanger of becoming an far right nation?

[crookedspire]

The BNP are socialists as are most organisations described as far right. UKIP are not socialists and to give them their due have been very proactive in excluding BNP members and the like from joining.

But let's not let facts get in the way of the standard leftist false narrative.

 

I always thought the BNP and the happy go lucky Britain First were neo Nazi in fact an member of the latter boasted to me he liked been an Nazi as for the BNP they are closeted Nazis. The UKIP have had a few run in with the BNP over the years.

[unbeliever]

I always thought the BNP and the happy go lucky Britain First were neo Nazi in fact an member of the latter boasted to me he liked been an Nazi as for the BNP they are closeted Nazis. The UKIP have had a few run in with the BNP over the years.

 

Nazis. Ah yes. You mean National Socialists. I suppose the BNP are similar.

Never has a term been so inaccurate as "far right".

[WestTinsley]

well it seems post-Nigel 5Farage ukip is going in 2 directions... one part the nucleus of that party seems to be swaying back to their original fatherland ie the Tory Party..and others maybe going the way of bnp and the English Democrats..

 

to the o.p. ..if We are in danger ..the far right wing should not be allowed any platform where ever they may hope to set up

Edited October 28, 2016 by WestTinsley

[unbeliever]

well it seems post-Nigel 5Farage ukip is going in 2 directions... one part the nucleus of that party seems to be swaying back to their original fatherland ie the Tory Party..and others maybe going the way of bnp and the English Democrats..

 

If we are in danger ..the far right wing should not be allowed any platform where ever they may hope to set up

 

Meanwhile the Labour party are still dealing with the fall-out from what looks very much like bribing somebody with a peerage to cover up they rampant anti-semitism. Perhaps enough baseless attempts to identify Nazism with their political opponents will distract people from this. Remind me again who the Nazis hated the most?

 

Anybody spot the contradiction in this sentence fragment.

Far right National Socialists ...

 

Bigotry has always been reared its ugly head across the political spectrum. But the worst offenders have always been Socialists. Maybe it's the combination of racial/other hatreds and the idea that government should be big and powerful which is so toxic. At any rate, no amount of referring to bigoted socialists as "far right" is going to put the politically closer to the Conservatives than to Labour as once you get past that rather obvious and pathetic piece of leftist spin you've still got a gang of bigoted socialists running amok and spreading their hate throughout the land.

Edited October 28, 2016 by unbeliever

[WestTinsley]

The BNP are socialists as are most organisations described as far right. UKIP are not socialists and to give them their due have been very proactive in excluding BNP members and the like from joining.

But let's not let facts get in the way of the standard leftist false narrative.

And are we to take that seriously ... lol

[unbeliever]

And are we to take that seriously ... lol

 

Yes. These are facts. I can't see how you can challenge it meaningfully, but If there is anything specific you would like to challenge, I have an array of evidence at my disposal to back up what I've said.

You could start by reading the BNP manifesto. https://www.bnp.org.uk/manifesto

It's hard to fight an enemy you know nothing about.

 

Almost everybody who gets routinely described as "far right" are bigoted Socialists. This you can verify in 10 minutes if you're interested in, you know, facts and such.

 

Now don't get me wrong. It's quite possible to be a Socialist and not a bigot. And it's possible to be a bigot and not a Socialist (it's fairly rare though that one). I'm certainly not saying that because you're a Socialist you have to be a bigot, or are in any way bigot-esque. Just be careful about the matter of Israel. Just because you object to Israeli government policy doesn't mean that Jews are bad people or that Israel shouldn't exist and be a safe place. And do try to think before throwing the term "far right" around casually and making unfounded assumptions about the mainstream "right" and the "far right" which may turn around to bite you as they have today.

 

Now if your personal identity or emotional well-begin is somehow linked to the idea that the best way to figure out what's right is to be as far away from the Nazis as possible and you're uncomfortable with the reality that you're not really far for them at all, then this may be upsetting. That's okay. There's nothing evil about being a socialist. Foolish sure, but not evil. Just stay away from anybody who seems in any way hateful and overly angry and try to evaluate each issue on merit.

Edited October 28, 2016 by unbeliever

[melthebell]

less tolerent is the phrase

[crookedspire]

well it seems post-Nigel 5Farage ukip is going in 2 directions... one part the nucleus of that party seems to be swaying back to their original fatherland ie the Tory Party..and others maybe going the way of bnp and the English Democrats..

 

to the o.p. ..if We are in danger ..the far right wing should not be allowed any platform where ever they may hope to set up

 

I suspect if the extremists parties were not allowed to spin out their policies and part take in elections they would say that was undemocratic. Its up to electorate to choose caution on extremist parties.

 

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less tolerent is the phrase

 

Do agree with that .

[LeMaquis]

Noway......

 

Switzerland.....

 

Both Norway and Switzerland have let in more Syrian refugees per head of population that the UK has, thus proving my point that the influx of Syrian refugees has nothing to do with EU membership.

 

Switch off your ego. Switch on your brain.

[Anna B]

Where exactly did you read that? Do you have a source?

 

For the UK we have

 

News International (Rupert Murdoch): Sun, Times, Sunday Times, News of the World

 

Trinity Mirror plc: Mirror, Sunday Mirror, People, Daily Record

 

Northern & Shell (Richard Desmond): Express, Express on Sunday, Star

 

Daily Mail and General Trust: Mail, Mail on Sunday

 

Telegraph Group (Barclay brothers): Daily Telegraph, Sunday Telegraph, The Business

 

Guardian Media Group (Scott Trust): Guardian, Observer

 

Pearson plc: Financial Times

 

That's the newspapers. On TV there are the normal channels; BBC, ITV, C4 and Channel 5 who all have their own news programmes. Then Sky News (Murdoch) and CNN (Turner Broadcasting System).

 

So for the UK alone that's more than 3 ain't it?

 

I think you need to read less nonsense.

 

You do realise that these companies have parent companies etc that bring them together into even bigger mega corporations, often owned by just one person or family. I'll try and find the link.