geared Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 So the cabinet directed the police to change statements?? Do you enjoy conspiracy theorys because that ones's top knotch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem8634 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Thats just because everyone is bored of you yamming on about the same rubbish. It's notable you've swerved any mention that no-one died, no-one was prosecuted and compensation had already been handed out. First you claimed that you know that there is nothing to be discovered and now you are claiming to know what everybody thinks. Be honest, you don't, do you? What would you like me to address about death, prosecution and compensation? ---------- Post added 31-10-2016 at 20:22 ---------- So the cabinet directed the police to change statements?? Do you enjoy conspiracy theorys because that ones's top knotch. Do you understand what hypothetically means? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geared Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Do you understand what hypothetically means? Yes, it means don't waste money on an inquiry into Orgreave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penistone999 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Thatcher played the man like the fool he was, set him up for the big fall and he gladly went right along with it. Correct ............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem8634 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Yes, it means don't waste money on an inquiry into Orgreave. It doesn't though, does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geared Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 It doesn't though, does it? Well, clearly it does http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-37826507 There will be no inquiry into the notorious events at the so-called "Battle of Orgreave", Home Secretary Amber Rudd has announced. Mrs Rudd said she did not believe there was "sufficient basis... to instigate either a statutory inquiry or an independent review". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem8634 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Well, clearly it does http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-37826507 Once again, that is not the meaning of hypothetically. You really should know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Fair enough. I disagree that wrongful prosecution and death are the only reasons to pursue an inquiry. Hypothetically, if the inquiry took place and exposed cabinet complicity in police illegality nobody would complain about the lack of death or wrongful prosecution. The financial argument has never really weighed much with me. It is often used to deflect from the pursuit of accountability. The public have precious few ways of holding powerful institutions accountable. The financial argument can feel like blackmail. But to what end? To reform a police force already reformed? To chase cabinet members out of office or dead? Individuals have moved on, institutions have moved on. I don't know what is to be gained over and above what's happened. I'll tell you one thing, had this been Notts police or Derbyshire this whole thing would have been dead and gone. It's only because of Hillsborough and SYP we're even talking about it. They saw a chance and took it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geared Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Once again, that is not the meaning of hypothetically. You really should know that. So you really want people to tell you why basing an inquiry on some moronic hypothetical situation is not a good idea??? Hypothetically, if the inquiry took place and exposed cabinet complicity in police illegality Please it's just pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem8634 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 But to what end? To reform a police force already reformed? To chase cabinet members out of office or dead? Individuals have moved on, institutions have moved on. I don't know what is to be gained over and above what's happened. I'll tell you one thing, had this been Notts police or Derbyshire this whole thing would have been dead and gone. It's only because of Hillsborough and SYP we're even talking about it. They saw a chance and took it. Again, that is for the inquiry to discover. Nobody knew what would come of Hillsborough until they looked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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