unbeliever Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 (edited) There's a lot of talk, particularly in the light of the Brexit vote and the US election, about rejection of "The Establishment". What is it? I'm really asking. Some of the anti-establishment commentators on the forum hold such profoundly different views on basically everything, that I suspect it may mean radically different things to different people. Further thoughts: Traditionally it has meant the core of our civil society. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Es...United_Kingdom But it clearly doesn't mean that in modern parlance. Edited November 9, 2016 by unbeliever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyofborg Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 you are the establishment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerousedd Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 that would be things like the bbc, hedge funds, thinktanks , career politicians etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 For the past 30 or so years its the neo liberal globalist elite and their supporters in the mainstream media. They make up the core of all the main parties; they're neo liberal globalists first, and Coservatives/Labour/LibDem/Republican/Democrat second, hence why leading Republicans imply they'd rather support Hillary than Trump. Its because she's one of them and Trump isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 What do you think liberal means? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted November 9, 2016 Author Share Posted November 9, 2016 What do you think liberal means? Literally, or in modern political pigeon-holing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtkate Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 I honestly don't think anyone really knows what 'the establishment' means except to justify their slightly extreme political views. That's on both the extreme left and right (economically and morally before we open that can of worms!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted November 9, 2016 Author Share Posted November 9, 2016 I honestly don't think anyone really knows what 'the establishment' means except to justify their slightly extreme political views. That's on both the extreme left and right (economically and morally before we open that can of worms!) That's rather disappointing if it's right. So something along the lines of "people I disagree with in some kind of position of power", varying naturally depending on the politics of whoever is talking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHRemovals Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 the establishment is farage, gove, may, bojo and trump etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted November 9, 2016 Author Share Posted November 9, 2016 the establishment is farage, gove, may, bojo and trump etc. On the face of it, this post rather confirms the definition in my previous post. What do the people in your list have in common? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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