phil752 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 We have a home charger, and a diesel (Mini) car that has to travel 40 miles 6 days a week. No matter how I do the sums, the Mini is miles ahead cost wise compared to Hybrid. If It were even, or slightly more expensive to go green I would do it in a flash. it could be 3,5,7 time cheaper but at present your still killing to planet compared to a normal same size or bigger car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 We have a home charger, and a diesel (Mini) car that has to travel 40 miles 6 days a week. No matter how I do the sums, the Mini is miles ahead cost wise compared to Hybrid. If It were even, or slightly more expensive to go green I would do it in a flash. You could always trying using 30% vegetable oil in your diesel. If you use less than 2500 litres of vegetable oil each year, then there was no duty to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil752 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 You could always trying using 30% vegetable oil in your diesel. If you use less than 2500 litres of vegetable oil each year, then there was no duty to pay. i used to do that, but it seem veg oil is now indexed link to fuel lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geared Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 It's not generally advisable to put veg oil in newer diesel cars, even diluted stuff. The high pressure pumps and seals can't take it. You might get away with it in the odd car but I wouldn't fancy being a guinea pig to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 For my petrol/electric hybrid using my home charger, £1 a charge, your figures are close to what is achievable. But here is where they are off target by a country mile. There are several Charging Companies that operate the free charging stations you see up and down the Country. I selected the three Companies with the most charging stations which were, Charge your car, Pod Point and Electric Highway. One of these "big" three have now started charging for your charge, (how long before the rest follow) which is £6 for a 30 minute charge. These ultra fast chargers only give you an 80% charge so as not to damage the battery by ramming it full in a short period. So I now pay £6 for 80% charge which gives me 15 miles, driven ordinarily and 20 driven so gently it's hard to keep up with the traffic flow. Get your coffee ready, sit down and here are the sums, 100 miles at 20 miles per charge is 5 charges, so 5 x £6 = £30 for 100 miles. Or 100 miles at 15 miles per charge is 6.5 charges, so 6.5 x 6 = £39 for 100 miles. Now 100 miles in ANY diesel car would take 2 gallons or a bigger engine 3 gallons say. So we have at £6 approx a gallon x 2 gallons £12 or £6 a gallon x 3 = £18. So we have £12 derv or £30 electric. Or £18 derv or £39 electric. Hope the above is understandable, Charged from home electric is OK, away from your home charger it's a scary cost. Angel1. What size battery does your car have? The limited range on electric only makes it pointless to pay to charge it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geared Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) The Outlander hybrid has a 12kWh battery. It's a pity there isn't scope to spec larger batteries for plug-in's, I'm sure people would be up for it. Edited November 25, 2016 by geared Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANGELFIRE1 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) What size battery does your car have? The limited range on electric only makes it pointless to pay to charge it. I don't know the battery size, but you are spot on, charging away from home at £6 a pop is pointless. Angel1. ---------- Post added 25-11-2016 at 14:49 ---------- The Outlander hybrid has a 12kWh battery. It's a pity there isn't scope to spec larger batteries for plug-in's, I'm sure people would be up for it. Thanks for that, I had no idea of battery size. Wonder how the Tessla does a reputed 250 miles per charge, Angel1. Edited November 25, 2016 by ANGELFIRE1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geared Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 I got it off Wikipedia so don't take it as Gospel. The Tesla apparently has a variety of battery sizes upto 100kWh battery, which is probably the one they make their mileage claims from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 A 60 to 100 kWh battery to start with, so that's 5 to 8 times the size of yours. You get 15 miles, so 5 times that would only be 75, but the Tesla doesn't drag around an ICE adding weight. The small battery hybrids are more about recovering energy I thought and having a boost available, and maybe short journeys on electric only, whereas the larger batteried cars can actually make a reasonable journey on electric only. ---------- Post added 25-11-2016 at 15:50 ---------- Is this your car anglefire? http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/realmpg/mitsubishi/outlander-phev-2014 Official 148.0 mpg Actual (reported by people) 67.8 mpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geared Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 67mpg is still good, but you can bet thats mostly based on alot of short trips and re-charging. As angelfire said, the battery is good for about 25 miles and the engine gives roughly 30mpg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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