Rustling Road trees are being felled right now

[Fudbeer]

The point is as we know they made public a report they had been sitting on for months in the middle of the night giving no chance for it to be looked at or discussed in any way then cut the trees down hours later despite the fact the report said the trees could be saved.

 

Thats not behaving with integrity and its certainly not democracy, even if you have no interest in this particular issue it tells you a lot about how they operate.

 

Even this apology is vague its all "we" with nobody standing up and being accountable,somebody must have decided this was an acceptable way to act.

[Penistone999]

The survey is open (as several people have said).

 

The proposal for my street in S6 is to remove every single tree on the street and to replant them.

I've obviously objected and said that it should be referred to the panel and trees only be removed where no other option exists.

 

(Eater - someone noted that removing mature trees is likely to cause damage to foundations itself as the moisture content changes due to no longer having trees withdrawing it).

 

They just ignore the panel anyway , so any objections wont bother them.

[Planner1]

It is the paid council officials who are in charge. Mothersole and his ilk are the ones in charge, they get paid over £100k a year, they are hardly likely to devolve important decisions to well meaning but dim Councillors.

 

Wrong. it's the other way round.

 

Sheffield Council operate what is known as a Strong Leader model of governance.

 

That means essentially all executive decisions lie with the Leader, but they delegate some of them to other Councillors in committees or as individual Cabinet Members. Some decisions are also delegated to officers.

[hackey lad]

Wrong. it's the other way round.

 

Sheffield Council operate what is known as a Strong Leader model of governance.

 

That means essentially all executive decisions lie with the Leader, but they delegate some of them to other Councillors in committees or as individual Cabinet Members. Some decisions are also delegated to officers.

 

a strong leader model of governance , that's as funny as it is insulting . Julie dore

[gamezone07]

Funny how they act rapidly on trees, I have been warning about priory road being used a rat run, all comers parking, etc, etc, i informed councilors, but nothing could be done, Had my car smashed into today on very same road, some point between midnight and 2pm, smashed my back lights(repairable) and caved in the side panel by the petrol cap, (can't replace) someone soon will be seriously hurt even killed by these speed merchants and i am paying out money i can't afford, i have supported labour but fuming on this.

[Cyclone]

Parking? What do you expect them to do about people legally parking?

 

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If they remove the 90 year old tree that stands outside our house with a sapling I will be forever grateful.

 

I guess the tree wasn't there when you bought the house.

 

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Coun Lodge does get a lot of stuff thrown at him but let's take a step back and think who is really in control of City Hall. Councillors are unpaid, unqualified normal folk. They would not be allowed within a hundred miles of a Billion £ contract with a multinational company, neither would they have the knowledge of obscure anti trade union laws to pursue peaceful protesters.

 

It is the paid council officials who are in charge. Mothersole and his ilk are the ones in charge, they get paid over £100k a year, they are hardly likely to devolve important decisions to well meaning but dim Councillors.

 

The councillors are certainly capable of sacking the officers. So if this was truly the case, we can expect to see someone sacked very shortly... But we won't, because this was on the council's orders.

[taxman]

Wrong. it's the other way round.

 

Sheffield Council operate what is known as a Strong Leader model of governance.

 

That means essentially all executive decisions lie with the Leader, but they delegate some of them to other Councillors in committees or as individual Cabinet Members. Some decisions are also delegated to officers.

 

Really, so if councillors make all the important decisions why is Mothersole paid so much?

 

He is in charge, the elected councillors are just willing pawns. Mothersole gets £219,000 per year. He's not likely to let elected councillors have any say in the real day to day running of City Hall. They might think they do, but come on be realistic. He wouldn't get that massive wodge if he wasn't in total and utter control. Dore might pretend to be a "strong leader" but just remember who gets paid over £200k and who doesn't

 

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I think they were probably wrong to go ahead with felling without looking further into alternative ways of retaining them (eg by giving the locals the opportunity to fund the extra cost of retaining the trees).

 

 

Why the hell should locals pay for retaining the trees, Amey are already contracted to do it. Just because they've decided they can't be bothered is no reason for the public purse to bail them out. Make them do it, or cancel their contract.

[Olive]

Parking? What do you expect them to do about people legally parking?

 

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I guess the tree wasn't there when you bought the house.

 

 

I was naive. I had no clue how year on year the gloom would have such an effect on my wellbeing. I imagine it's a bit like having noisy neighbours, you don't mind it so much at first, but after a while the cumulative effect really gets you down.

 

Even more naively, we actually thought the council would do the decent thing, and cut it back to something like a reasonable size, but no not even the branches that overhung our property, or grew so low that the footpath was obstructed, or when the roots caused so much damage our retaining garden wall had to be rebuilt, or when the pavement became so raised it's impossible to pull the car onto the drive without it damaging the car.

 

This tree has been neglected. But I guess that's all my fault?

[Eater Sundae]

Really, so if councillors make all the important decisions why is Mothersole paid so much?

 

He is in charge, the elected councillors are just willing pawns. Mothersole gets £219,000 per year. He's not likely to let elected councillors have any say in the real day to day running of City Hall. They might think they do, but come on be realistic. He wouldn't get that massive wodge if he wasn't in total and utter control. Dore might pretend to be a "strong leader" but just remember who gets paid over £200k and who doesn't

 

---------- Post added 25-11-2016 at 22:48 ----------

 

 

Why the hell should locals pay for retaining the trees, Amey are already contracted to do it. Just because they've decided they can't be bothered is no reason for the public purse to bail them out. Make them do it, or cancel their contract.

 

So you know the terms of the streets ahead contract, do you?

[Olive]

By the way, on our street, some of the residents are trying to do something positive to build a better, more sustainable streetscape for our future. We're pushing for more trees to be planted. We dont just want the three, grown-too-big-for-where-they-are-trees to be replaced. We'd love for the street to be resored to its original Edwardian design, with trees all along. As long as they're of a suitable variety. I'm trying to do something positive to improve quality of life for me and my neighbours.