hackey lad Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 What do you mean by being different ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Arctor Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 What do you mean by being different ? People friendlier People more modest Less built up so feels less like a big city Less money-orientated Worse shops Pace of life slower More outdoors orientated Smaller cultural offering (or cultural stuff more hidden) Smaller city centre You can get almost anything made by someone, somewhere Cheaper housing Worse architecture (thanks to the Luftwaffe) Almost no suburban rail network for some reason More of it is countryside Those are off the top of my head. Some of those are negatives (to some/most people). But like any city, Sheffield is unique, and a lot of people like Sheffield for what it is, and if some of the 'negatives' weren't there, would it change Sheffield to the extent that it would stop being what it is? Some people complain that Sheffield is behind the times. Others think that the world is generally becoming a worse place, so being behind the times is a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCOnoob Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 You ought to re-read this https://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11739796&postcount=256 What are you referring to exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackey lad Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 People friendlier People more modest Less built up so feels less like a big city Less money-orientated Worse shops Pace of life slower More outdoors orientated Smaller cultural offering (or cultural stuff more hidden) Smaller city centre You can get almost anything made by someone, somewhere Cheaper housing Worse architecture (thanks to the Luftwaffe) Almost no suburban rail network for some reason More of it is countryside Those are off the top of my head. Some of those are negatives (to some/most people). But like any city, Sheffield is unique, and a lot of people like Sheffield for what it is, and if some of the 'negatives' weren't there, would it change Sheffield to the extent that it would stop being what it is? Some people complain that Sheffield is behind the times. Others think that the world is generally becoming a worse place, so being behind the times is a good thing. cant argue with much of that but surely you must agree we are lacking in many areas . The council keeps harping on about the new market (poor) , the upgrade on the moor (poor) , Starting the new retail quarter (offices) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paula4sheff Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Sheffield is till a decent place to live- but lets face it, it could do with picking its act up in many ways! The 'go and move to leeds/manchester' argument is daft - most people live here because they prefer it, which is why they don't want to see it slip and know it can do better as a City. Sheffield seriously lacks in terms of arts and culture compared to other cities, and has a truly abysmal council that seem intent on dragging the city down, but those are things that (hopefully) will change...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernboy Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Front page of The Star today seems to be defending the £1bn China deal including the library site. Why do Sheffield council persist on signing these huge contracts when they are clearly out of their depth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestTinsley Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 What are you referring to exactly? This : Salford's 'Corbynista' council has voted to open libraries rather than close them The city which opened the country's first municipal library has turned a new leaf - and voted to open more https://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11739796&postcount=256 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Joker Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Front page of The Star today seems to be defending the £1bn China deal including the library site. Why do Sheffield council persist on signing these huge contracts when they are clearly out of their depth? Yeah but, what's the alternative? The council do nothing, and get criticised for that instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrider Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Yeah but, what's the alternative? The council do nothing, and get criticised for that instead? surely its not an either/or between bad investment decisions and doing nothing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paula4sheff Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Absolutely. That's the crap the council peddle: "It's this, or we do nothing"- in an attempt to make people feel we should be grateful for anything, even if it is a terrible deal. It's obviously complete nonsense, and a tactic employed time and again. The general meeting about the library closure (which was so popular they had to run it twice) had some extraordinary comments along those lines. "We should be really happy as a City that someone has come along and offered to buy this from us, and should really be thanking them" type of thing. Of course those sorts of comments were met with hoots of derision and laughter, and questions were asked (and not answered) as to whether, if the library was indeed up for sale, they had advertised it as such in order to attract the best offer. Of course they haven't done this, for some inexplicable reason, and the 'buyer' has basically said "I want to buy that building" and named his price. Not one explanation has been offered as to why, if they did want to sell the library building, they haven't allowed a number of different people to make offers before deciding the best one. Of course, most people can think of an explanation as to why they have done this..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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