rudds1 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 If the appeals process delay is excessive then a court will get very interested in a valid writ - they really don't like delays to justice of any form especially when one party is playing silly buggers. Or do you really think it acceptable that someone is deprived of their vehicle for a couple of months whilst an appeal works through the system? Do you not get so long to claim your vehicle back before they dispose of it at a cost to yourself ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtkate Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 The system is not in "meltdown" at all. They just have a backlog. They tell you how long the backlog is on the council website. Appeals are treated on merit, they are never rejected "automatically". There is no statutory timescale for first stage appeal responses. They naturally prioritise the stages of the process that do have statutory timescales for responding. The way the process works is prescribed by law. The council have to work within it. Does the council cover interest when they get their money back? May only be a few quid to the claimants but it'll cost the council a large sum. You wonder if that's half the point if them taking forever and a day to sort out the claims? Miraculously managing to respond 1-2 days before the legal deadline... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutch Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 If they can afford to go on holiday just before Xmas, they cant be that skint Just been two weeks to Cuba, its a lot cheaper this time of year. Two hundred pounds for repairs, accidental events is a normal expense for any car owner, especially poor ones who cannot afford an expensive car. If you cannot live with that, don't buy a car. I also question how nasty, angry, violent some people are when collecting the car and try to lie about some holiday. If the owners explanation is true there is no need to get upset and the proper documentation will solve the problem without getting upset. I think the reason some people get upset is because they lie about their excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 If they can afford to go on holiday just before Xmas, they cant be that skint I know that was tongue in cheek, but there are other scenarios that would result in it being towed. ---------- Post added 08-12-2016 at 10:52 ---------- Just been two weeks to Cuba, its a lot cheaper this time of year. Two hundred pounds for repairs, accidental events is a normal expense for any car owner, especially poor ones who cannot afford an expensive car. If you cannot live with that, don't buy a car. I also question how nasty, angry, violent some people are when collecting the car and try to lie about some holiday. If the owners explanation is true there is no need to get upset and the proper documentation will solve the problem without getting upset. I think the reason some people get upset is because they lie about their excuses. So you're answer to "it might cause financial hardship" is to declare that anyone who has a car must have £200 available in case the council tow it or it needs repairs. Meanwhile, back in the real world, there are people who live paycheck to paycheck, need the car to continue receiving that paycheck and will end up turning to payday loans and paying 1500% APR on a loan in order to get the car back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Do you not get so long to claim your vehicle back before they dispose of it at a cost to yourself ? Not sure. Only time I had mine detained I went with an angle grinder and took the clamp off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtkate Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Not sure. Only time I had mine detained I went with an angle grinder and took the clamp off. Be careful admitting to that as that's criminal damage nailed on sadly...intent and act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beligerence Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Does the council cover interest when they get their money back? May only be a few quid to the claimants but it'll cost the council a large sum. You wonder if that's half the point if them taking forever and a day to sort out the claims? Miraculously managing to respond 1-2 days before the legal deadline... You do realise that the cost of employing staff to deal with cases like this will be far greater than the interest you can get on £125 (?) in a couple of months, dont you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtkate Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 You do realise that the cost of employing staff to deal with cases like this will be far greater than the interest you can get on £125 (?) in a couple of months, dont you? But by law they have to respond with a certain deadline, so if they *just* meet the deadline every time they maximise interest to themselves, whilst keeping costs of staffing down too. Win-win. I'm saying to reduce their burden of dealing with claims for towed cars by making Amey give a list of all reg numbers who were parked up at the time of the notices being issued if they are within 2 weeks of planned work starting and anyone on that list can have their car returned for free without having to utilise the claims process. Anyone not on that list has to go via the claims process. Sound sensible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutch Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 I know that was tongue in cheek, but there are other scenarios that would result in it being towed. ---------- Post added 08-12-2016 at 10:52 ---------- So you're answer to "it might cause financial hardship" is to declare that anyone who has a car must have £200 available in case the council tow it or it needs repairs. Meanwhile, back in the real world, there are people who live paycheck to paycheck, need the car to continue receiving that paycheck and will end up turning to payday loans and paying 1500% APR on a loan in order to get the car back. I reckon the chance of council towing the car while away for two weeks is smaller than your GP telling you to strop driving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 And yet this thread was started by someone who had the car towed away. ---------- Post added 08-12-2016 at 11:42 ---------- Be careful admitting to that as that's criminal damage nailed on sadly...intent and act. Interesting aside, if I attach a bike lock to someone else's bike, are you saying that they can't legally damage the lock in order to recover their property? Say I spot a nice bike at a bike rack in town, so I quickly slip an extra bike lock onto it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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