unbeliever Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Because it is faith even though it can not be proved. I am referring to God here and not religions which I now realise is off topic. Can you define religious "faith" without self-reference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailyBoy Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) Because it is faith even though it can not be proved. I am referring to God here and not religions which I now realise is off topic. Why would you want to believe something that cannot be proven? Edited December 15, 2016 by SnailyBoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootsBooster Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 So why believe it then? This is always my main question to theists. The honest answer in the majority of cases would be "Because my parents told me to when I was very young and throughout my childhood". For some there are other reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Can you define religious "faith" without self-reference? A belief in something which can or can not be proved. A simpler way would be to say it is the chosen option in the absence of definitive proof either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootsBooster Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 A belief in something which can or can not be proved. A simpler way would be to say it is the chosen option in the absence of definitive proof either way. As Snailyboy asked, why believe it then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Why would you want to believe something that cannot be proven? Because it can not be disproved either. Granted there are many theories, and some would say positive proof one way or another but each side maintains they are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailyBoy Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) Because it can not be disproved either. Granted there are many theories, and some would say positive proof one way or another but each side maintains they are right. Do you think that's a rational process in establishing if something is true or not? Edited December 15, 2016 by SnailyBoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) This is always my main question to theists. The honest answer in the majority of cases would be "Because my parents told me to when I was very young and throughout my childhood". For some there are other reasons. We have discussed this in the past and I respect your views but mine differ from yours. Perhaps my views were formed in impressionable years but we were not a church going family when I was growing up nor am I now. The God we refer to could have been a chemical action or a creator or...... ---------- Post added 15-12-2016 at 16:12 ---------- Do you think that's a rational process in establishing if something is true or not? Until there is definite proof we will all choose an option. What is rational is to keep an open mind and appreciate others have different views. Edited December 15, 2016 by harvey19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Until there is definite proof we will all choose an option. What is rational is to keep an open mind and appreciate others have different views. Rational people choose the most likely option and call it a working assumption rather than a belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailyBoy Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Until there is definite proof we will all choose an option. What is rational is to keep an open mind and appreciate others have different views. That's not rational at all. I'd say it's irational to believe something that hadn't been proved with evidence to be true. Different views have nothing to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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