Obelix Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 The basic laws we live by are based on the Bible . No they are not. The code of Hammurabi predates the Bible for example, the other cuniform laws, and the Urukagina code also.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtkate Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 No they are not. The code of Hammurabi predates the Bible for example, the other cuniform laws, and the Urukagina code also.. There really is just no hope with some people is there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 kingdom is (I think not sure) a rather YEC so this could be interesting.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) kingdom is (I think not sure) a rather YEC so this could be interesting.... If I remember Kingdom is a Jehova Witness, hence the name so probably believes in YEC in part. Edited December 7, 2016 by apelike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin-H Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 The basic laws we live by are based on the Bible . Not murdering , stealing etc surely that's a major positive ! Wow do people actually believe this!? Do they think that before Abrahamic religion people just went around murdering each other willy nilly? (significantly more than we do today anyway). Did not the ancient Greeks or Egyptians or Chinese or Maya etc etc have punishment for murder or think it is was OK, as they all long predate the bible?(for avoidance of doubt, they most definitely did). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petemcewan Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 This sounds like the science of sociology, psychology, neurology and anthropology to me. To pretend that these things can't be investigated in a rational way is to hand the entire sphere of the mind, consciousness and interpersonal interaction to hand waving charlatans or at best natural philosophers (who were in effect the forerunners of modern scientists). If you seek meaning however, you are already into hand waving. There is nothing to suggest that life has an inherent meaning. If you want to chose one for yourself, great, but to 'search' for an underlying meaning or expect that there is one is hand waving of the highest order. Cyclone, The search for truth and meaning occurs throughout a man's life. To abandon its pursuit would be to drown in a slough of despond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Cyclone, The search for truth and meaning occurs throughout a man's life. To abandon its pursuit would be to drown in a slough of despond. This is best pursued through science though. That's the point. Your founding assumption, that science is a subset of a wider field of knowledge, is false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariadna77 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I am not in favor of religions but I respect them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petemcewan Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 This is best pursued through science though. That's the point. Your founding assumption, that science is a subset of a wider field of knowledge, is false. Philosophy is a superset of all scientific inquiry. It's the mother science. Logical positivism is absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Utter utter utter cobblers. Firstly please stop using adjectives such as "sterile" to describe science and to make disparaging remarks about "secular" scientists. Secondly if you think that science is somehow flat and meaningless then you've never peered at the stars and imaged the Horsehead Nebula. You've not listened on a home built radio for someone speaking to you from the far side of the planet. You've not marvelled at the beauty and the maths that lies behind the shell of a snail - or the music of Bach. You've not marvelled at the exquisiteness of a fractal equation or the Copenhagen interpretation.... Of course we have. Why do you think science and religion (for want of a better word) are mutually exclusive? Don't you think nature has had something to do with some of your above list? We might need a telescope (science) to see the beauty of the Horsehead Nebula, but it was created by nature. And please stop being disparaging about people who have beliefs different to yours... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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