hush Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 Tim Farrons seat is just around the corner, they love him up there. And he is for renewing Trident. How will a nuclear disarmer get on up there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamston Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Will Labour voters vote for UKIP or Tory, or maybe a Liberal Democrat? Surely it depends on the Labour candidate. I doubt very much if Labour selected a sore BREXIT loser candidate, who spouted nonsense about obstructing the Government carrying out the wishes of the people, to leave the EU, that such a candidate would win the by-election. Another waste of taxpayers' money as a consequence of the by-election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Surely it depends on the Labour candidate Electing one moderate candidate will have zero effect on Labour policies. It will just replace the one that left. If you dont like Corbyn, which is the next left/centre party? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hush Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) Electing one moderate candidate will have zero effect on Labour policies. It will just replace the one that left. If you dont like Corbyn, which is the next left/centre party? But isn't that the problem here? The local party has an influx of new members who were trying to deselect Jamie Reed because he wasn't on the Corbyn message. They are the ones who will select the new candidate. I presume it will be one who is "on message". It hardly matters who is the next left/centre party. Pick liberal, Ukip, Tory, whoever you like. If it takes votes away from Labour the result is the same. Edited December 22, 2016 by hush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamston Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Electing one moderate candidate will have zero effect on Labour policies. It will just replace the one that left. If you dont like Corbyn, which is the next left/centre party? Whoever they choose as a candidate, will have zero effect on Labour policies, but the right candidate for that area, might help them keep the seat in Parliament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hush Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 Whoever they choose as a candidate, will have zero effect on Labour policies, but the right candidate for that area, might help them keep the seat in Parliament. You reckon. https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/12/09/voting-intention-labour-voting-intention-lowest-le/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamston Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 You reckon. https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/12/09/voting-intention-labour-voting-intention-lowest-le/ I did use the word might Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flanker7 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 The candidates will have to spell out there position on Brexit. Not like in the referendum where no one party could be held to account. UKIP will probably be hard and uncompromising Lib-Dems will probably say it was a terrible mistake support trying to reverse it. Thats the easy ones done. The Conservatives will probably put up some creep who will tow the party line which at the moment is very obscure but they will want to sound authoritative and 'Brexit means Brexit' just won't wash. Labour will probably avoid saying much and push it onto the Tory candidate after all they are the ones negotiating. Who wins isn't as important as the swings to or from the last election result. I predict the big gains will be UKIP and Lib-Dems. The other two will just sound weak and wishy-washy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hush Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 The candidates will have to spell out there position on Brexit. Not like in the referendum where no one party could be held to account. UKIP will probably be hard and uncompromising Lib-Dems will probably say it was a terrible mistake support trying to reverse it. Thats the easy ones done. The Conservatives will probably put up some creep who will tow the party line which at the moment is very obscure but they will want to sound authoritative and 'Brexit means Brexit' just won't wash. Labour will probably avoid saying much and push it onto the Tory candidate after all they are the ones negotiating. Who wins isn't as important as the swings to or from the last election result. I predict the big gains will be UKIP and Lib-Dems. The other two will just sound weak and wishy-washy. Do you imagine that the new order in the local Labour Party will pick a candidate who doesn't support the master's thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flanker7 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Do you imagine that the new order in the local Labour Party will pick a candidate who doesn't support the master's thoughts. Yes I do. But the local Labour party is not reflective of the voters. And just what is Corbyn's position on Brexit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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