Jeffrey Shaw Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Trying to get your post count up? Anybody know if HSBC still own it, or the council? I was just correcting you, darling. Maybe neither own it and it was rented from a private landlord. Either way I don't know. It costs you only £3 to find out who owns it, via HM Land Registry. Use https://eservices.landregistry.gov.uk/www/wps/portal/!ut/p/b1/04_Sj9CPykssy0xPLMnMz0vMAfGjzOKNjSxMDA1NjDwsjM3MDTxN3dyNDUNMjQ1MjPWDU_P0C7IdFQG9k5Tz/?_ga=1.158964093.633941434.1483618017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCOnoob Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) it's not as ludicrous as it sounds use it as part of a scheme to get the homeless back into mainstream society, provide the necessary training for them to do most of the conversion work themselves, at the same time working with them to address any mental health, substance and other issues. at the end of the process they have a home, skills which would make them very employable and had some help to address the problems which put them on the street. clearly, ongoing support will be needed and the tenancies linked to sensible behaviour but it's all easily deliverable. Have you any idea of the outlay that would be required to convert a disused office block into a residential dwelling(s). Then lets move on to the legislation, legalities, planning and other paperwork which will all need to be drafted by competent and suitably qualified people, processed and approved. - they all work for free right? Now we can start with the great build. Presumably all those homeless people with no training, no fixed abode, no relevant certificates or CSCS cards will just spring up and do it will they. Forget about pages and pages of construction, liability, health and safety and dozens of other rules and regulations about building works and a total disregard for actually having skilled and suitably competent workmen doing the same. Presumably this huge amount of qualified trades who need to give close personal supervision on every single aspect of the job will all be working for free too right? ....and once its built presumably there will be the magic maintenence fairy who will deal with all ongoing upkeep, pay the service charges, ground rent, council tax and utility costs which will fund all these new dwellings on their prime piece of real estate in the middle of the city centre. Im sure its a sound idea once you get over those little hurdles. Edited January 5, 2017 by ECCOnoob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackey lad Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Have you any idea of the outlay that would be required to convert a disused office block into a residential dwelling(s). Then lets move on to the legislation, legalities, planning and other paperwork which will all need to be drafted by competent and suitably qualified people, processed and approved. - they all work for free right? Now we can start with the great build. Presumably all those homeless people with no training, no fixed abode, no relevant certificates or CSCS cards will just spring up and do it will they. Forget about pages and pages of construction, liability, health and safety and dozens of other rules and regulations about building works and a total disregard for actually having skilled and suitably competent workmen doing the same. Presumably this huge amount of qualified trades who need to give close personal supervision on every single aspect of the job will all be working for free too right? ....and once its built presumably there will be the magic maintenence fairy who will deal with all ongoing upkeep, pay the service charges, ground rent, council tax and utility costs which will fund all these new dwellings on their prime piece of real estate in the middle of the city centre. Im sure its a sound idea once you get over those little hurdles. wow , talk about shooting someone down when all they are thinking about is trying to help someone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beligerence Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 wow , talk about shooting someone down when all they are thinking about is trying to help someone He has a point though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margarita Ma Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Life is nowhere as simple as many of us would like it to be. Probably never has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCOnoob Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) wow , talk about shooting someone down when all they are thinking about is trying to help someone They didn't THINK about anything. Its a throw away pointless statement on the same lines as people who say "....the minimum wage should be at least £15 a hour" "...everyone should be guaranteed a house from the state..." and "....everyone should get all healthcare, university and childcare free of charge..." It means nothing and has sod all basis with any reality. No thought as to how its funded. No thought as to the work involved. No thought as to any practicalities. No thought as to the long term and/or wider impact of such things. Anyone above the age of 5 knows the simple concept that money does not magic itself out some mystical pot under the rainbow and you dont just create materials, land and utilities out of thin air. Perhaps less fantasy dreaming and more practcal assistance would be of more benefit to those "homeless" persons. The charities and organisation who can actually do something are there. Edited January 5, 2017 by ECCOnoob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crookedspire Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Deacon House was for sale but has been sold . The building itself is in a poor state of repair the ground floor is flooded plus vandalism has taken its toll over the years it will cost a lot to sort out could be cheaper to flatten it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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