Dilemma: To give or not to give that is the question

[Cyclone]

 

Anyone can buy water pumps (not rocket science), put them on a boat and leave them at the docks in Africa instead of distributing them personally.

You don't need to be a brain surgeon but you will get a six figure sum along with the other top paid (not earners) staff.

 

Yeah, they'd definitely get to the people who needed them.

[Hopkins]

Yeah, they'd definitely get to the people who needed them.

 

That's why a documentary Showed people without water in a country, that had, that year, received overseas aid and water aid yet most of the villages were still without water and other basic needs.

When asked why they hadn't received a pump "The local government official insists that we pay him for one".

Although the country had received both types of aid virtually nothing had reached the people. So come on you're bright why aren't you asking where has all the £Trillions gone over the last 60 years

 

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Yeah, they'd definitely get to the people who needed them.

 

Well it doesn't get to them now does it!

[tinfoilhat]

That's why a documentary Showed people without water in a country, that had, that year, received overseas aid and water aid yet most of the villages were still without water and other basic needs.

When asked why they hadn't received a pump "The local government official insists that we pay him for one".

Although the country had received both types of aid virtually nothing had reached the people. So come on you're bright why aren't you asking where has all the £Trillions gone over the last 60 years

 

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Well it doesn't get to them now does it!

 

Aid and improvements that might have had happened in Ethiopia for example in the 80s may need to be replaced after years of civil war. You could say the same about a bunch of other third world countries. There may be other factors why a village has to move or the water has effectivly run out.

[harvey19]

What I fail to understand is why the children are sent miles to collect water and not the adults.

Or why they do not live closer to the water.

[Robin-H]

What I fail to understand is why the children are sent miles to collect water and not the adults.

Or why they do not live closer to the water.

 

This is where google helps.

 

It's not as easy as moving closer to the water

Around the world, millions of people – especially women and girls – make the long walk to collect water every day. So why don’t communities move closer to the source?

 

As you might expect, there are lots of obstacles. Firstly, just like here in the UK, moving isn’t always easy. We work with the world’s poorest communities, who can’t afford the best land – leaving them without access to water.

 

Even if they could afford to relocate, many people can't leave their livelihoods behind.

 

And then there’s the problem of natural water sources themselves: they’re often filthy, and contaminated with all sorts of waste and parasites which can spread diseases like cholera.

 

Not only that, but they’re also unreliable. Rivers can dry up, and whole communities simply can’t move every time that happens. That’s why we try to move water closer to people, by tapping into groundwater, drilling wells and harvesting rainwater.

 

http://www.wateraid.org/uk/news/news/why-walk-for-water-your-seven-biggest-questions-answered

 

http://water1st.org/faq/why-dont-people-move-closer-to-the-water-source/

[Hopkins]

What I fail to understand is why the children are sent miles to collect water and not the adults.

Or why they do not live closer to the water.

 

Have you not noticed how she hasn't aged a day over the years.

 

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Aid and improvements that might have had happened in Ethiopia for example in the 80s may need to be replaced after years of civil war. You could say the same about a bunch of other third world countries. There may be other factors why a village has to move or the water has effectivly run out.

 

So you land at their docks and by the time one warlord after another has been paid hardly anything if anything gets to the intended recipients.

But they can afford weapons for a civil war. Hmmm good sane common sense thinking we should pick up the tab year on year, no thank you.

[Cyclone]

That's why a documentary Showed people without water in a country, that had, that year, received overseas aid and water aid yet most of the villages were still without water and other basic needs.

When asked why they hadn't received a pump "The local government official insists that we pay him for one".

Although the country had received both types of aid virtually nothing had reached the people. So come on you're bright why aren't you asking where has all the £Trillions gone over the last 60 years

 

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Well it doesn't get to them now does it!

 

So because some African government officials are corrupt, somehow you think this means that the CEOs of large charities shouldn't be paid a reasonable salary for the work they're doing?

I don't see the link. Are these CEOs somehow responsible for the behaviour of foreign government officials in your head?

 

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So you land at their docks and by the time one warlord after another has been paid hardly anything if anything gets to the intended recipients.

But they can afford weapons for a civil war. Hmmm good sane common sense thinking we should pick up the tab year on year, no thank you.

 

Perhaps you should go there in person to make sure your aid gets to the people who need it. Go and dig a well or something. Be sure to send pictures.

[harvey19]

I think Hopkins point is that if an organisation asks for donations for a specific purpose that organisation has a responsibility to ensure the donations are used as intended.

[Margarita Ma]

Actually I would say that indirectly they are, It has already been noted that sometimes war lords are paid to allow Aid items to be allowed through to where they are needed. The same happens with other aid directed by "local" officials" I don't feel that I need to substantiate this as it has been documented for decades and reported in news papers and on television. No one ever admits to anything of course but the Aid reduces to a trickle as it passes through one hand after another. The Beekeeping Project appeals to me as In the article I read it stated that though some of the people interested and already keeping bees in a much more primitive way were highly educated but unable to find work. The beekeeping would provide a much needed source of income from increased yields obtained in a safer way of handling while at the same time being a renewable resource. The hives to start the projects and the education to utilise them and replicate them and educate the Beekeepers can be passed on within communities once the process is started.

[Hopkins]

There is still poverty in parts of Africa. That doesn't mean there hasn't also been huge improvements.

 

So why aren't they now helping their fellow Africans?

 

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So try this for size... you have ten volunteers. you put them on the high volume sites. But volunteers are generally pensioners, and they feel the cold so they stand in doorways and don't get as much trade... ior they keep popping off to the loo...

 

But they collect. So then you find you can say staff five supermarket entrances... but that means you lose five in the town centre as you have no volunteers...

 

So you can pay five people commission to rattle a can, and collect 70% of the total, or you can collect nothing.

 

So tell me what is best. In terms of raising money?

 

But and a big BUT does the public know of this because on top of this the top execs and top end staff have to be paid Hmm the remaining percentage keeps shrinking the scales quickly swing the other way, wonder how small a percentage finally ends up with the intended recipients.