Tram Trains thread

[choogling]

The route between Manchester and Sheffield.

Proximity to settlements, industry and resources when the only realistic speedy movement of goods and people led to many secondary stations along main routes- such as Oughty Bridge station and very often a great distance from the original settlement.

 

Mainline stations attract a different customer to that of a tram or bus route.

 

Oughty Bridge station was never close enough. Its closure nearly 60 years ago might indicate the usage of the infrequent services was insignificant even before the Beeching report. The site of the station will not attract new customers or will it move people from the current bus service. Unless a huge Park and Ride scheme was built.

 

if you were to visit the quaintly old fashioned named oughty bridge station you will find two fairly modern housing estates within easy flatish walking distance and plenty of room to construct a park n ride or just a car park.

 

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deepcar to chesterfield 2017

 

[geared]

Oughty Bridge station was never close enough. Its closure nearly 60 years ago might indicate the usage of the infrequent services was insignificant even before the Beeching report. The site of the station will not attract new customers or will it move people from the current bus service. Unless a huge Park and Ride scheme was built.

 

Is there an actual figure of how close a station should be??

 

The position is obviously not great, but still it's what 500m from the centre of Oughtibridge?

Is half a km too much??

 

Taking into consideration the topography of the area it's not likely you could move the train line any further, so is a short walk really a killer for a station in Oughtibridge?

[WaveyDavey]

the route would finish in fox valley dead in the middle of Stocksbridge and a proposed journey time of eleven minutes to sheffield it can take over one hour on the bus 57 route

 

http://donvalleyrailway.org/[/url

 

 

But you're quoting from a site that are pushing for a re-introduction of a 90mph train service..... What's that got to do with a tram service with a maximum speed of 50mph (Existing fleet) or 62mph (New tram/train fleet) :huh:

[geared]

How is 90mph even possible along that route?

[apelike]

One question..

 

As these are tram/trains can a normal concessionary pass be used to travel free or will they be deemed as trains and half fare charged?

[Phili Buster]

One question..

 

As these are tram/trains can a normal concessionary pass be used to travel free or will they be deemed as trains and half fare charged?

 

 

With them not noticing that a bridge needed to be raised for the cables, there is a good chance that no one has thought about that.

 

My guess is that they will be deemed to be trains and half fare charged - every little helps to pay off that £75m cost. Or has it gone up again in the last few days

[WaveyDavey]

One question..

 

As these are tram/trains can a normal concessionary pass be used to travel free or will they be deemed as trains and half fare charged?

 

With them not noticing that a bridge needed to be raised for the cables, there is a good chance that no one has thought about that.

 

My guess is that they will be deemed to be trains and half fare charged - every little helps to pay off that £75m cost. Or has it gone up again in the last few days

 

 

I would have thought as it's still part of the SuperTram network whatever rules apply to the tram tickets now would continue to apply to journeys on this section when it opens???

 

You will buy a tram ticket from the conductor as you do now not a National Rail ticket from a station or the conductor.

[boldforester]

These are finally carrying passengers, so was interested to make my first journey last night. Rubbish! Hard seats, totally cretinous design, poor use of space, even narrower gangways ( well- built conductors will find it even harder to avoid whacking commuters around the ears with their various satchels and machines l )

[geared]

These the ones going between Rotherham and Sheffield?

[Geo-atkinson]

The trams (train/trams) are made somewhere near Valencia and are the same as the ones that run betweem Benidorm and Alicante where they run sometimes on railway line and sometime on the street. I believe that's the idea between Sheffield and Rotherham. Not been on ours yet but the seats are hard on the spanish ones and the journey is about an hour and a half.