Hospitals should ban cars

[kidley]

My experience at the RHH regarding hold ups at the out patients is, it is not cars that cause hold ups there, cars do go past there looking for parking spaces my experience is they do not stop they keep moving unless some one is leaving and they are going to go in there space, what the op is witnessing, "to me" is ambulances pulling up at the out patients and escorting them the patient's to where ever they need to go and, in doing so, they consequently have a big long line of cars behind the ambulance and some times they do seem to take along time.

[ECCOnoob]

The biggest disgrace is hospital staff having to pay for parking spaces.

It is a large chunk out of already poor salaries.

In most cases, due the shifts worked, public transport is not an option.

 

Lots of people have to pay a "chunk out of their salaries" to pay towards parking.

 

Lots of people do shift work - not just hospital staff.

 

Most public transport services finish their runs between 11.15 and midnight. They start up again from around 5.30 onwards.

 

In my experience shift work is usually set within either "daytime" "twilight" and "through-night" which would allow start/finish times within the same periods as operating buses/trams. I have worked shifts myself and done work during both 2pm - 10pm shifts and 10pm - 6am shifts both perfectly within bus running times.

 

If you really are one of the FEW shift workers who finish outside of public transport running times, then that's a matter for you to try and sort out. Its not beyond the realms of possibility to make alternative arrangements, adjust working hours, car share, split taxis or other options to get to and from work.

 

Its all well and good demanding that staff have some right to free and available parking but in the real world land is not infinite. Hospital car parks are not there solely for the benefit of the staff. There has to be some way of controlling it.

 

Despite what people try and argue not ALL staff need to be travelling in their cars. If they dont want to pay for parking - get to work another way.

Edited February 5, 2017 by ECCOnoob

[Guest]

Might sound extreme this but my recent visit to the hospital (by taxi) was a joke, It took 25 minutes to get to the front entrance because of the gridlock by all the people in their own cars trying to find a parking space.

I drive a car and I either get a bus or taxi because driving my car to the RHH is just too stressful.

I've come to the conclusion that a ban on cars entering the hospital grounds of all the hospitals would help congestion, not make people late and also help the environment.

Thoughts?

 

If everyone used a taxi then the hospital entrances would be clogged up with taxis.

[kidley]

If everyone used a taxi then the hospital entrances would be clogged up with taxis.

 

i was going put that in my post, but i thought i said enough.

[Daven]

Lots of people have to pay a "chunk out of their salaries" to pay towards parking.

 

Lots of people do shift work - not just hospital staff.

 

Most public transport services finish their runs between 11.15 and midnight. They start up again from around 5.30 onwards.

 

In my experience shift work is usually set within either "daytime" "twilight" and "through-night" which would allow start/finish times within the same periods as operating buses/trams. I have worked shifts myself and done work during both 2pm - 10pm shifts and 10pm - 6am shifts both perfectly within bus running times.

 

If you really are one of the FEW shift workers who finish outside of public transport running times, then that's a matter for you to try and sort out. Its not beyond the realms of possibility to make alternative arrangements, adjust working hours, car share, split taxis or other options to get to and from work.

 

Its all well and good demanding that staff have some right to free and available parking but in the real world land is not infinite. Hospital car parks are not there solely for the benefit of the staff. There has to be some way of controlling it.

 

Despite what people try and argue not ALL staff need to be travelling in their cars. If they dont want to pay for parking - get to work another way.

I pay to park my car in the hospital grounds out of my wages every month. This does not guarantee me a parking space. If I cannot find a parking space in the permit users car park - often because non permit holders are parked there - I have to try to find a pay and display space which I have to pay for.

I often finish work around 21.30hrs - often later - and have to return the following day to start work at 07.00hrs. I live 8 miles away. Please tell me how I can 'get to work 'another way' without spending a large amount of my wage on taxis and allowing myself to return to work not sleep deprived.

Edited February 5, 2017 by Daven

[ECCOnoob]

I pay to park my car in the hospital grounds out of my wages every month. This does not guarantee me a parking space. If I cannot find a parking space in the permit users car park - often because non permit holders are parked there - I have to try to find a pay and display space which I have to pay for.

I often finish work around 21.30hrs - often later - and have to return the following day to start work at 07.00hrs. I live 8 miles away. Please tell me how I can 'get to work 'another way' without spending a large amount of my wage on taxis and allowing myself to return to work not sleep deprived.

 

See third paragraph of my earlier post. You are not unique. Lots of shifts workers have the same position on a daily basis.

 

As for not being able to find a parking space in your paid for permit area, becuase non permit holders are in there - I would concede that that is unfortunate and not acceptable. However, that is clearly a lack of enforcement and weaknesses by your own employer which is for you to raise.

[Jacktari]

Lots of people have to pay a "chunk out of their salaries" to pay towards parking.

 

Lots of people do shift work - not just hospital staff.

 

Most public transport services finish their runs between 11.15 and midnight. They start up again from around 5.30 onwards.

 

In my experience shift work is usually set within either "daytime" "twilight" and "through-night" which would allow start/finish times within the same periods as operating buses/trams. I have worked shifts myself and done work during both 2pm - 10pm shifts and 10pm - 6am shifts both perfectly within bus running times.

 

If you really are one of the FEW shift workers who finish outside of public transport running times, then that's a matter for you to try and sort out. Its not beyond the realms of possibility to make alternative arrangements, adjust working hours, car share, split taxis or other options to get to and from work.

 

Its all well and good demanding that staff have some right to free and available parking but in the real world land is not infinite. Hospital car parks are not there solely for the benefit of the staff. There has to be some way of controlling it.

 

Despite what people try and argue not ALL staff need to be travelling in their cars. If they dont want to pay for parking - get to work another way.

 

In your world two wrongs make a right do they?

How strange.

 

You seem to think everyone lives on top of their work.

I used to have to travel over 20 miles each way.

Using public transport, setting off at 06:00 (the first bus in my village), using bus, train and walking over 2 miles, I would arrive at about 08:30.

About 1 1/2 hours after my designated start time.

 

You live in a fantasy world.

[Daven]

See third paragraph of my earlier post. You are not unique. Lots of shifts workers have the same position on a daily basis.

 

As for not being able to find a parking space in your paid for permit area, becuase non permit holders are in there - I would concede that that is unfortunate and not acceptable. However, that is clearly a lack of enforcement and weaknesses by your own employer which is for you to raise.

 

Oh come on - my employer is the NHS ! Since when have they cared about their employers welfare ?

I tried using public transport just to see how it would work out. I should finish work at 21.30hrs but on this particular day I had a very sick patient and didn't leave the ward until 22.00hts. I had to get changed and then walk to Firvale and then waited for a bus which came at 22.40hrs. I got off the bus at 23.30hrs -walked home, had something to eat and a shower and got into bed at midnight. My alarm went off at 5.15hrs after just over 5 hours sleep to get on another bus at around 06.00hrs but it was late and I arrived on the ward 10 minutes late for my shift. Another 8 hour shift where I am caring for patients having had only 5 hours poor quality sleep.

I don't think getting a parking space in the hospital grounds that I have already paid for is too much to ask for is it ?

[ECCOnoob]

In your world two wrongs make a right do they?

How strange.

 

You seem to think everyone lives on top of their work.

I used to have to travel over 20 miles each way.

Using public transport, setting off at 06:00 (the first bus in my village), using bus, train and walking over 2 miles, I would arrive at about 08:30.

About 1 1/2 hours after my designated start time.

 

You live in a fantasy world.

 

Look, I am not going to play top trumps.

 

Taxpayers do not owe you conveniece monies of getting to and from work. If YOU choose to drive then YOU choose to pay for parking.

 

If you dont like it, then you sacrifice and use public transport, find somewhere off site to park for free or make alternative arrangements.

 

The point I am trying to raise is clear. Shift workers are not just hospital staff. People in a range of professions and jobs work various shifts at all hours. Not all of them drive and those who do have no automatic right to free parking.

 

Travel costs whether that's bus fares, train fares, petrol or car parking fees is an expense we ALL have to pay out of our salaries.

 

Travel time whether that is commuting in a car, waiting at a bus stop or walking from door to door is a intrusion in our precious downtime that we ALL have to put up with.

 

What makes hospital workers unique? "working shift hours" is not enough.

 

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Oh come on - my employer is the NHS ! Since when have they cared about their employers welfare ?

I tried using public transport just to see how it would work out. I should finish work at 21.30hrs but on this particular day I had a very sick patient and didn't leave the ward until 22.00hts. I had to get changed and then walk to Firvale and then waited for a bus which came at 22.40hrs. I got off the bus at 23.30hrs -walked home, had something to eat and a shower and got into bed at midnight. My alarm went off at 5.15hrs after just over 5 hours sleep to get on another bus at around 06.00hrs but it was late and I arrived on the ward 10 minutes late for my shift. Another 8 hour shift where I am caring for patients having had only 5 hours poor quality sleep.

I don't think getting a parking space in the hospital grounds that I have already paid for is too much to ask for is it ?

 

I agree. I have already said this. You pay for a permit and that should entitle you to a space in the permit car park.

 

I repeat... If that is not happening becuase someone with no permit is there, you need to be raising it with your management.

Edited February 5, 2017 by ECCOnoob

[Daven]

I have done on numerous occasions but it falls on deaf ears.

If the carers aren't cared for they will vote with their feet and they are doing on a regular basis.