Bilge Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Badly, unfortunately. I work with and enjoy being around older people who have a story to tell. It's these older people who are being hit hardest by the closures of small local pubs as they often can't chose where they go, they need to be able to walk there and back. I value pubs like the Firwood for that reason, and just because it's a traditional working class pub, it shouldn't be labelled as bad. It's hard enough for Gary to keep the pub open without negative comments on line saying 'let's not pretend it's a good pub'. Up to over 70 objections for the half way home, on a more positive note! I also value local pubs that I can walk to. But if they're not very good I don't go in them more than once until it looks like they might have improved. I've been here once, I went in the Belle Vue across the road once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biotechpete Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 This might be of interest to those who are interested in crowdfunding it as a community pub: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/coalition-ministers-change-the-law-to-protect-the-great-british-pub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkleyIan Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 This may change for the worse if Heineken get their way Indeed. Chis at the CC already saying that if (when) the deal happens they will only be able to sell Heineken owns brewery ranges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexo Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 You want a good experience, whatever that is for you, you mean? Personally I choose local pubs with local people, no pretentiions, no fancy cask beer or real ale, and no snooty judgemental people. "No real ale"? I guess that leaves lager that is mass produced somewhere miles away or low quality ales like Stones. If you go somewhere like the Blake, you can get a choice of very locally-made beers for less money than a corporate nitrokeg lager. If you want to drink the corporate stuff, and consider anything else to be too "fancy" for likes of you, that's your choice. However a lot of people do like locally-made ales and to try different things. The pubs that do have a decent range of beers are doing very well; those that are stuck with a pubco's range of overpriced low quality beers are struggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnomi Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 "No real ale"? I guess that leaves lager that is mass produced somewhere miles away or low quality ales like Stones. If you go somewhere like the Blake, you can get a choice of very locally-made beers for less money than a corporate nitrokeg lager. If you want to drink the corporate stuff, and consider anything else to be too "fancy" for likes of you, that's your choice. However a lot of people do like locally-made ales and to try different things. The pubs that do have a decent range of beers are doing very well; those that are stuck with a pubco's range of overpriced low quality beers are struggling. I like the Blake, I just don't like stuck up pretentious people! I don't drink lager either, not that there's anything wrong with it, or beer for that matter. My point was that to slag a pub off online because it's not your cup of tea, when it's already struggling, is out of order. I also don't know many retired working class men that drink real ale. In my experience they want a pint of bitter and there's nowt wrong with that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkleyIan Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 trouble is a pint of bitter these days isn't the same drink as it was in the 70s and 80s . How I miss the Tetley's in the pub next door to Lax and Shaws in Leeds when we were rebuilding their glass furnaces in 89 and 90. https://www.totalales.co.uk/blog/2017/1/9/and-half-for-tha-self-changing-tastes-and-seeking-bitter-in-1970s-sheffield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcol Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 You want a good experience, whatever that is for you, you mean? Personally I choose local pubs with local people, no pretentiions, no fancy cask beer or real ale, and no snooty judgemental people. I used to use the Firwood a lot throughout the 80's and early 90's. It served real ale then and was a thriving local - used to love going in Sunday dinner when they came round with the Yorkshire Pudding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnomi Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 I used to use the Firwood a lot throughout the 80's and early 90's. It served real ale then and was a thriving local - used to love going in Sunday dinner when they came round with the Yorkshire Pudding. Haha! They still do that! Roast potatoes and Yorkishire puds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxman Posted February 17, 2017 Author Share Posted February 17, 2017 Remember when the fish man came round with cockles and crab sticks etc, or when the first prize in the quiz was a tray of meat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnomi Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Remember when the fish man came round with cockles and crab sticks etc, or when the first prize in the quiz was a tray of meat? hihi::hihi: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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