alchresearch Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 This means these people have no employment rights, no holiday pay, no sick pay, and no guarantee of any work from one day to the next. Really? If you’re on a zero hours contract, you can still get sick pay - you should ask your employer for it. If they say no, ask them to explain why. You can contact your nearest Citizens Advice if you’re not happy with their explanation. https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/work/rights-at-work/sick-pay/check-if-youre-entitled-to-sick-pay/ Although zero hours contracts have been controversial, many say they provide flexibility to people such as students, parents and those with other caring responsibilities. The employee - who still receives employment rights such as annual leave - does not have to accept work offered. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39147135 There is a common misunderstanding that a zero-hours contract worker has no statutory rights. This is not true. You will be entitled to basic statutory employment rights such as the National Minimum Wage (NMW), holiday pay and statutory rest breaks, based on the hours that you are required to work https://worksmart.org.uk/work-rights/young-workers/working-students/i%E2%80%99ve-got-%E2%80%98zero-hours%E2%80%99-contract-am-i-entitled-any-holiday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 If you don't agree with the terms don't take the job. Yeah, the DWP really think it's great if you do that. They actually give you extra money to feed yourself instead of sanctioning you and leaving you with nothing to live on! Here, educated yourself. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/want-to-know-the-depressing-reality-of-zero-hours-contracts-take-a-look-at-sports-direct-a6769896.html ---------- Post added 03-03-2017 at 15:54 ---------- Really? https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/work/rights-at-work/sick-pay/check-if-youre-entitled-to-sick-pay/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39147135 https://worksmart.org.uk/work-rights/young-workers/working-students/i%E2%80%99ve-got-%E2%80%98zero-hours%E2%80%99-contract-am-i-entitled-any-holiday And then there's the reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil752 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 But that's exactly the same for someone working a 15 hour contract then? I'm not sure what point you are making? I've not claimed JSA so I could be wrong, but I was sure that any money you earn is offset against JSA even under the 16 hours limit? The point is one week you may do 40 hours or so the next 10 hour so claiming anything would be difficult Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 If you don't agree with the terms don't take the job. Although won't they be claiming every credit and benefit available ? OR as is the case in a massive % of these cases they're students and the money they earn isn't for existence its extra spending money. Then they jack the job in at the drop of a hat itll be really hard to claim jobseekers / council tax benefit / housing benefit if you have a job Working tax credit you can only claim if you work so many hours per work, was 16 i think its 24 or someat now? contributions paid benefit ive never known anybody be able to claim even if theyve paid in for years and years, seems to always be jobseekers people have to claim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willman Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Yeah, the DWP really think it's great if you do that. They actually give you extra money to feed yourself instead of sanctioning you and leaving you with nothing to live on! Here, educated yourself. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/want-to-know-the-depressing-reality-of-zero-hours-contracts-take-a-look-at-sports-direct-a6769896.html ---------- Post added 03-03-2017 at 15:54 ---------- And then there's the reality. So you genuinely think that everyone can take time off when they please to do as they please with no sanctions ? I think you should live in the real world - i know teachers losing pay for caring for dying parents. I know people on 16 hour contract whose hours get split to 2-3 hour segments twice a day because they've upset the boss. Where's the difference? Yet people keep applying for the jobs - if they didn't they wouldn't be in the public domain to complain about. The DWP do not sanction you for not applying for a zero hour contract job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 So you genuinely think that everyone can take time off when they please to do as they please with no sanctions ? I think you should live in the real world - i know teachers losing pay for caring for dying parents. I know people on 16 hour contract whose hours get split to 2-3 hour segments twice a day because they've upset the boss. Where's the difference? Yet people keep applying for the jobs - if they didn't they wouldn't be in the public domain to complain about. The DWP do not sanction you for not applying for a zero hour contract job. So because teachers are losing pay for caring for dying patients, and some employees get treat like dog crap because they've upset their boss, it's okay if everyone else is treat like that? Is that what you're saying? The DWP have sanctioned people who are on death's door, or are already dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willman Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 So because teachers are losing pay for caring for dying patients, and some employees get treat like dog crap because they've upset their boss, it's okay if everyone else is treat like that? Is that what you're saying? No i'm saying mistreatment of staff occurs all the time - so please stop ONLY blaming it on zero hours contracts or as a tool to stop zero hour contracts. It shouldn't be happening anywhere but it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin-H Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 I think the biggest issue with zero hour contracts was when they were allowed to be exclusive to one company, which meant that if that company couldn't offer you any shifts that week you were also not able to work elsewhere. These were banned by the coalition government. http://www.pumpcourtchambers.com/blog/exclusive-zero-hours-contracts-banned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Do we have any numbers on what fraction of these people would prefer a traditional employer-employee relationship? Sports Direct: 90% of staff on zero-hour contracts. Sports Direct's entire 20,000 part-time workforce are employed on zero-hour contracts(2013). Its great how one company can find all these people that prefer more flexible hours Your support for the Tory Government seems to be unaffected by the facts. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2013/jul/28/sports-direct-staff-zero-hour-contracts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil752 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Sports Direct: 90% of staff on zero-hour contracts. Sports Direct's entire 20,000 part-time workforce are employed on zero-hour contracts(2013). Its great how one company can find all these people that prefer more flexible hours Your support for the Tory Government seems to be unaffected by the facts. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2013/jul/28/sports-direct-staff-zero-hour-contracts Are you saying people prefer zero hours contracts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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