The SYP should apologise to this Sheffield Man

[ECCOnoob]

Sounds to me like SYP did nothing wrong and the error was solely down to Herts? I aslo agree the guy should have got considerably more than he did, Warpig perhaps after such horrendous trauma he didn't want to enter another courtroom so just accepted any offer to end the ordeal?

 

But he was quite happy to expose all to a media organisation and tell the world his "story"??

 

Also, he says he wants to tell his tale to stop it happening to others... How exactly? The police like everyone else are human beings. They have to make very difficult investigations on evidence and information provided by other human beings. Nobody is infalable and nobody is free from making mistakes.

 

Reading through the "story" there seems to me to be far more here than just the police forces' mistakes. His own attitude certainly didn't help his cause. It is clear there is a complete lack of co-operation at the time of the initial arrest with plenty of "its coz im black init" thrown around.

 

3 WEEKS was the investigation duration and 3 WEEKS later he was found innocent able to return home. That's when he could have started to re-build his life, not seemingly, 5 years later.

 

I have no objection him pursuing the police for their mistakes. I have no objection to him receiving every single penny of the compensaton for his ordeal. I would even go so far as to agree with others that I would have expected such compensation to be at least in the low £100k bracket, but if he CHOOSE to accept it, that's his business - he cannot now start whining about that.

 

What I will not accept is his seemingly entire life collapsing because of this. It may well be an easy excuse but 3 WEEKS was the investigation time. 3 WEEKS and his name was cleared and life back. If he really was so ruined by this ordeal then he has far more problems going on than just police failures.

 

Lets not get too finger pointy.

 

Lets also not forget that at the time of this incident the paedo hysteria was at maximum level. Newpapers, internet forums and thousands of people (including I bet many from this very forum) were screaming "...string them up..." to any lone male who so much as looked at a child passing, let was alone was proven guilty. The hysterics would have screamed the place down if there was word that an alleged paedophile was not investigated because the police were worried about potential typing errors or protecting themselves from getting sued due to wrong information.

 

The police are there to INVESTIGATE where they believe they have good reason to. The CPS decide on whether to charge. The COURT decide whether to convict.

 

Yes, sometimes it goes wrong. Sometimes its hugely wrong - that's why there are complaint procedure and access to compensation. However, do we really want a force who become so scared to do anything just because the lawyers are circling.

 

Arrest withdrawn, charges dropped, investigations made, complaints responded to, legal liability accepted, compensation paid, responses provided and report of what went wrong with apologies.

 

What more do people want here?

Edited March 17, 2017 by ECCOnoob

[geared]

Also, he says he wants to tell his tale to stop it happening to others... How exactly?

 

It does bring to attention how over-reliant on simple IP address data the police can be.

It's incredibly simplistic and in now way can be trusted to reliably identify an individual.

 

In a letter from the police Lang was told there were five possibilities:

 

That someone had “piggy-backed” on to the router in the house (something that was ruled out by police).

That someone staying with the family had downloaded the indecent images, something categorically denied by Lang.

That the images had been downloaded on a device not found by police.

That some technical aspects of the router could have allowed unsecured access by an unknown third party.

And, finally, that South Yorkshire police had been provided with incorrect information.

 

Other possibilities include IP address spoofing, possibly TOR traffic as well.

 

If the report is to be believed then this is quite questionable as well:

 

That someone had “piggy-backed” on to the router in the house (something that was ruled out by police).

 

They were sure that no-one else had accessed the network, but didn't realise they had the wrong guy??

Edited March 17, 2017 by geared

[Alcoblog]

I know how he feels - I recently got done for selling Class A Rugs

A friend of mine got done for 'camping within tent'.

[mad-dad]

A friend of mine got done for 'camping within tent'.

Last week I got done for being 65 in a 20mph zone.

[WarPig]

The cops had a suspicion he might have committed an offence. The law allows cops to arrest on suspicion, and they must be allowed to do so. Being arrested doesn't mean your guilty, it just allows the police to start an investigation. They investigated, and released him from arrest. It was an unfortunate incident, but I don't see the problem.

[dutch]

The cops had a suspicion he might have committed an offence. The law allows cops to arrest on suspicion, and they must be allowed to do so. Being arrested doesn't mean your guilty, it just allows the police to start an investigation. They investigated, and released him from arrest. It was an unfortunate incident, but I don't see the problem.

 

The police attitude when arresting will usually be that of he be guilty anyway. The police thinks as if they can treat people like criminals even when no proper investigation has been done.

Then they say people only get non guilty verdicts in court because of technical mistakes, that may be often the case but there are also several innocent people out there fighting a system that has little respect for you as a human being.

[Tomtom66]

The cops had a suspicion he might have committed an offence. The law allows cops to arrest on suspicion, and they must be allowed to do so. Being arrested doesn't mean your guilty, it just allows the police to start an investigation. They investigated, and released him from arrest. It was an unfortunate incident, but I don't see the problem.

 

 

 

lets see if you feel that way after trying to explain to people your not a paedophile, or let alone being accused of one and trying to protest your innocence.

[dutch]

South Yorkshire police once accused someone with epilepsy of criminal damage when a police car got damaged while she had a seizure.

Specialist wrote to police to explain, police didn't care, only when specialist said he would go to court and tell them what he thinks of this made the police drop the case.

[mickey finn]

lets see if you feel that way after trying to explain to people your not a paedophile, or let alone being accused of one and trying to protest your innocence.

 

Warpig is a flamer, a mild one, but a flamer all the same.

[WarPig]

lets see if you feel that way after trying to explain to people your not a paedophile, or let alone being accused of one and trying to protest your innocence.

 

I'd feel the same way. But what are the police supposed to do if given evidence of an offence? Are they supposed to spend hours and hours checking every minute detail before arresting, I think not.

 

The guy had 3 very unfortunate weeks being under investigation. Then it ended. I'd say £60k was appropriate, and so did he.

 

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The police attitude when arresting will usually be that of he be guilty anyway. The police thinks as if they can treat people like criminals even when no proper investigation has been done.

Then they say people only get non guilty verdicts in court because of technical mistakes, that may be often the case but there are also several innocent people out there fighting a system that has little respect for you as a human being.

 

It doesn't matter what the cops think, they have a procedure to follow and their personal emotions/thoughts are irrelevant. Im sure they couldn't really care less if they are innocent or guilty, they just have to crack on and do what they have to do. They can't bring their own thoughts into it.