The Consequences of Brexit (part 3)

[NigelFargate]

But they aren't new - they were defined in the Scottish Adjacent Waters Boundaries Order 1999.

 

Map here: https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-8de6d01778ffaf7868a05997956e984d

 

if Scotland did leave the UK, I am sure it would be a velvet divorce, similar to when the Czechs and Slovaks decided to go their separate ways. In other words, an amicable settlement was reached.

 

Contrast this with the aggressively hostile and bellicose statements and outrageous demands coming from Brussels (such as wanting the ECJ to have jurisdiction over the treatment of EU migrants in the UK in perpetuity). No independent state should agree to this.

 

As for the 100 billion Brexit bill, there is no legal requirement for the UK to pay the EU a single penny. There is nothing in the EU treaties which makes any reference to an exiting member having to pay for the privilege of leaving.

Edited May 6, 2017 by NigelFargate

[crookesjoe]

But they aren't new - they were defined in the Scottish Adjacent Waters Boundaries Order 1999.

 

Map here: https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-8de6d01778ffaf7868a05997956e984d

 

Is this a joke? I feel like a hidden camera show victim seriously!! haha

[Hairyloon]

Now, if people elect May in 4 weeks and effectively give May a mandate for hard Brexit I'm not going to argue...

 

Well you should do: we don't have any realistic mechanism by which to deny her a mandate, our electoral syste is so screwed up.

 

but why is it going to be such a desaster?

 

Because of the almost complete lack of competence at the top for starters.

 

Norway seem be coping pretty well...

 

Well yes, the Norway model was held up by many Leave campaigners as something to aim for, but the Former Home Secretary has taken the Norway model off the table.

 

Oooops!...........

 

No "oops" at all. We know for a fact that some people voted to leave because of curvy bananas, others to "keep the muslins out", and we can reasonably assume those people are as thick as porridge.

Nobody is suggesting that they make up a large proportion of the leave vote, perhaps no more than 5%...

[crookesjoe]

 

but the Former Home Secretary has taken the Norway model off the table.

 

 

 

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FORMER home secretary. You actually said that.

 

Just take a step back and think before you post next time lol.

[Puggie]

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This is the thing, people are angry that migrants are doing jobs that most British people wouldn't last a week in. That's only part of the story though because although many businesses have high numbers of workers from the EU there are almost always British workers at the same places - managers, admin, engineers etc...

 

Brits aren't even given the opportunity to "last a week" as you put it.

 

At present there is no moral or legal obligation placed on companies to advertise locally, let alone hire Brits.

 

You're left with this absurd situation where Company X has magically recruited the staff it needs without anyone in the local community even knowing there were vacancies.

 

It can't go on like this.

 

This is what Theresa May said about the 'spirit of citizenship' during last year's Tory conference speech

 

 

(it should start playing at the right point)

[silentP]

I fear you missed my humour 'loon, that's not like you...

[El Cid]

UK unemployment is at less than 5%, so if foreigners are stealing our jobs, the economy must be doing really well?

[I1L2T3]

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Brits aren't even given the opportunity to "last a week" as you put it.

 

At present there is no moral or legal obligation placed on companies to advertise locally, let alone hire Brits.

 

You're left with this absurd situation where Company X has magically recruited the staff it needs without anyone in the local community even knowing there were vacancies.

 

It can't go on like this.

 

This is what Theresa May said about the 'spirit of citizenship' during last year's Tory conference speech

 

 

(it should start playing at the right point)

 

The Tories are the party of business and wholly in the pay of it.

 

If cheap labour is what businesses want it's what they will get, and the Tories will do nothing to stop that and everything to facilitate it.

 

They are the last party that will sort those problems out and you are naive to believe that they will, and that Brexit is some silver bullet that will force them to.

[chalga]

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Brits aren't even given the opportunity to "last a week" as you put it.

 

At present there is no moral or legal obligation placed on companies to advertise locally, let alone hire Brits.

 

You're left with this absurd situation where Company X has magically recruited the staff it needs without anyone in the local community even knowing there were vacancies.

 

It can't go on like this.

 

This is what Theresa May said about the 'spirit of citizenship' during last year's Tory conference speech

 

 

(it should start playing at the right point)

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/08/pret-a-manger-one-in-50-job-applicants-british-brexit

 

 

Her comments echoed those made by Kevin Green, the chief executive of the Recruitment and Employment Confederation, at the Department for Work and Pensions select committee.

 

He revealed that a large food processing plant in the Midlands which made a concerted effort to hire large numbers of British workers to replace migrants had failed to make the cultural shift stick.

 

He said it held lots of roadshows, open days at the processing plant, but “one month on, 75% of UK nationals were no longer there”.

 

“What is that about? These are hard jobs, potentially physically demanding. I’m not sure we prepare people very well. They are paid national living wage. We need to work on attitudes to work, that’s a challenge for employers,” said Green.

[tinfoilhat]

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Brits aren't even given the opportunity to "last a week" as you put it.

 

At present there is no moral or legal obligation placed on companies to advertise locally, let alone hire Brits.

 

You're left with this absurd situation where Company X has magically recruited the staff it needs without anyone in the local community even knowing there were vacancies.

 

It can't go on like this.

 

This is what Theresa May said about the 'spirit of citizenship' during last year's Tory conference speech

 

 

(it should start playing at the right point)

 

If only we had a government who could have tackled this problem. Gordon brown made a bit of noise about it. You can absolutely guarentee it won't happen now.