Anna B Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 They would be in crisis anyway (particularly the first two) as a result of increasing demand, due to a rising, ageing population. But they have known about the ageing population for years, surely they should be prepared for it and have put things in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtkate Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 The NHS isn't really the issue, it's a symptom of underfunding social care which in turns pushes the problems down the line to overworked GPs and then on to over-capacity A&E departments, then to wards with no beds and then even those who could leave can't as there isn't the social community care to support them when they leave hospital and the circle starts again. Chucking endless money at the NHS isn't going to fix anything until we start looking at the entire health and social care system in it's entirety. The move to push social care bills on to council is a callous and underhand way to further undermine the NHS and the government will then be able to wash their hands of it by blaming local councils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 They would be in crisis anyway (particularly the first two) as a result of increasing demand, due to a rising, ageing population. That doesn't excuse deliberate underfunding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 The NHS isn't really the issue, it's a symptom of underfunding social care which in turns pushes the problems down the line to overworked GPs and then on to over-capacity A&E departments, then to wards with no beds and then even those who could leave can't as there isn't the social community care to support them when they leave hospital and the circle starts again. Chucking endless money at the NHS isn't going to fix anything until we start looking at the entire health and social care system in it's entirety. The move to push social care bills on to council is a callous and underhand way to further undermine the NHS and the government will then be able to wash their hands of it by blaming local councils. I agree. And they need to look at the problem long term, as it needs a cross party approach, otherwise plans will change with every election, and lead to still more disruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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