Sheridan1-0 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 I don't disagree and to be honest your strike force is the envy of pretty much every team in the championship. You play two and have two equally good players on the bench. I don't think we will be spending anywhere near the likes of Wednesday but I also think the interview from Wilder is quite clever. If we say "hey we've got millions to spend" then every player we are interested in gets their price tag bumped up, with agents rubbing their greedy hands together. I've no doubt you'll be fine next season and might even shock a few people along the way..Wilder has a fantastic record which-ever league he's been in.. as long as Wednesday are one step in front at all times... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Loving Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 I agree,but if you pay £10/15m in transfer fee before you've committed to salaries etc,then your on a slippery slope...its the old adage,if you pay peanuts,you get Monkeys... I think the comment that the strikers haven't performed etc considering the fees paid is incorrect and a lazy one considering how much Wednesday have actually paid.. What's lazy is that you don't read my words correctly and only see what you want to.. I mention how much you have spent on them, this includes fees, signing on fees and wages. If you look at the wages commited to your forwards, then they are far far excessive for the returns. We are also assuming here that Rhodes hasn't been commited to be signed, which we don't know either way. But even with the supposed outlay of £6.5 million, you're the third lowest scorers in the top 14. Which you'd expect more from a supposed £6.5 million transfers fee and estimated £150k+ in wages (if reports are to be believed) per week. My point is actually, you needed other areas strengthening and not the forwards, which would in turn effectively make your forwards look better value than they currently have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top4718 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 What's lazy is that you don't read my words correctly and only see what you want to.. I mention how much you have spent on them, this includes fees, signing on fees and wages. If you look at the wages commited to your forwards, then they are far far excessive for the returns. We are also assuming here that Rhodes hasn't been commited to be signed, which we don't know either way. But even with the supposed outlay of £6.5 million, you're the third lowest scorers in the top 14. Which you'd expect more from a supposed £6.5 million transfers fee and estimated £150k+ in wages (if reports are to be believed) per week. My point is actually, you needed other areas strengthening and not the forwards, which would in turn effectively make your forwards look better value than they currently have been. You are only guessing on wages so can't really use that in your argument. Rhodes is an Owls player FACT the money will just change hands at the end of the season - fee unconfirmed but in the region of £8m. ---------- Post added 13-04-2017 at 12:04 ---------- Although the "game changing investment" quote was a little taken out of context, it arguably was a game changer; at least for him and internally behind the scenes. I think McCabe will look back at that statement "think Liverpool" one and will regret saying this. It does send out the wrong messages to other clubs in terms of them bumping their player transfers fees up. I'm sure he'll have learnt. We've all said things in the past where others have misunderstood the context - especially Wednesday fans looking into something that wasn't there. I think they were more excited than the Blades fans were, obviously for different reasons. Welcome back. The game changing investment had no context, he said those two words and that was it. Its ok being prudent with spending but if your struggling by Xmas would the fans still be happy with that approach. ---------- Post added 13-04-2017 at 12:06 ---------- With the rate of the Owls spending, I think they will be on a similar level as Brighton in the next couple of years, on the cusp of the PL but also sailing close to FFP. If you get to the 'promised land' then FFP becomes irrelevant at that point. I am not saying we should not spend at all, just not on mental amounts on players who aren't required. I'm happy to leave it with the chairmen and what they see best. But I don't think it will be a shoestring budget. We have the fans backing and relatively wealthy chairman. I imagine our wage bill will be in the top 10 next year, whether we come anywhere close to that is another matter. Sailing close to FFP is fine, the chairman asked the fans last night if he should break it and face an embargo and the consensus was no, it would be better to be patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan1-0 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 What's lazy is that you don't read my words correctly and only see what you want to.. I mention how much you have spent on them, this includes fees, signing on fees and wages. If you look at the wages commited to your forwards, then they are far far excessive for the returns. We are also assuming here that Rhodes hasn't been commited to be signed, which we don't know either way. But even with the supposed outlay of £6.5 million, you're the third lowest scorers in the top 14. Which you'd expect more from a supposed £6.5 million transfers fee and estimated £150k+ in wages (if reports are to be believed) per week. My point is actually, you needed other areas strengthening and not the forwards, which would in turn effectively make your forwards look better value than they currently have been. Nothing lazy on my part ..but you do have a habit of wanting everything spelling out for you... I don't know what wages are paid to any player....and i'd be very surprised if you did either...but it seems to form the crux of your argument...so it's flawed really,but you seem to be dazzled by it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Loving Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Nothing lazy on my part ..but you do have a habit of wanting everything spelling out for you... I don't know what wages are paid to any player....and i'd be very surprised if you did either...but it seems to form the crux of your argument...so it's flawed really,but you seem to be dazzled by it... Just like you don't know the exact fees of players and yet you still present them as fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan1-0 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Just like you don't know the exact fees of players and yet you still present them as fact. I've got a better idea than you though...but if i'm wrong you show me otherwise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottf Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 I've got a better idea than you though...but if i'm wrong you show me otherwise... Why do you have a better idea than him? Because your an owl and he's a blade? utter rubbish. Or do you 'know' someone and your not allowed to say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan1-0 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Why do you have a better idea than him? Because your an owl and he's a blade? utter rubbish. Or do you 'know' someone and your not allowed to say? Why are you getting yourself all wound up about it..?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottf Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Why are you getting yourself all wound up about it..?... On the contrary I think your the one getting a little wound up, Robbie is making his argument pretty clear and your ......... struggling to make your point. (Nice avoidance of my question too btw) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan1-0 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 On the contrary I think your the one getting a little wound up, Robbie is making his argument pretty clear and your ......... struggling to make your point. (Nice avoidance of my question too btw) Please explain which part of my point im struggling to make..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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