tinfoilhat Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 I think a 'pledge' etc from a politician is a bit more serious than from a football manager, especially in a run up to an election. I'm not sure they do hold other politicians to account like this every time they open their mouths. Theresa May seems to get away with it most of the time. Rhubarb. Unless it's an election pledge in black and white or straight from the horses mouth it's newspaper hyperbole - always has been. May has been getting an easy ride though. But if you think that something from a politicians mouth is more serious in the eyes of joe public (and indeed scrutinised in equal measure) than what comes out of a football managers mouth - you need to get out more or at least read a few back pages! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtkate Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 This is what will happen. Businesses arent stupid. Unless of course the minimum number of days leave is increased by 4. Governments really aren't *that* stupid to not see that one coming. Current minimum annual leave entitlement already includes bank holidays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banjodeano Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Bobbins. Any time a football manager says something about thats a pledge. A minor celeb has a bash at giving up drugs - thats always a vow. Im sure Blair, Cmaeron and everyone gets quoted as vowing this, pledging that. Obviously if any of the above criticises anyone, they give them a "blast" in media land. Most people can see through it. i dont think they can, thats why most people think Corbyn wants to give the Falklands away and abolish the army Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_W Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 i dont think they can, thats why most people think Corbyn wants to give the Falklands away and abolish the army It was widely reported that he had suggested to share the Falklands ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacktari Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 It was widely reported that he had suggested to share the Falklands ! What use are the Falkland Islands to the UK? The days of being a coaling station for The Fleet are long gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banjodeano Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 It was widely reported that he had suggested to share the Falklands ! it may have been widely reported, that doesnt mean it true... from what i recall he said we should open dialogue with the Argentinians, not give them away, but i stand to be corrected if i am wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 it may have been widely reported, that doesnt mean it true... from what i recall he said we should open dialogue with the Argentinians, not give them away, but i stand to be corrected if i am wrong Ok let's open the dialogue. Argies: we want the falklands, they are ours from hundreds of years ago Corbyn: maybe we could share them Islanders: no! And so it goes on. Unless there's a groundswell for change, shouldn't we let the residents decide. It's a non-issue. This is why I'm not a fan of corbyn, he's the sort who thinks there's always middle ground and there isn't always middle ground. The falklands is one, relitivly minor case. What do you think trump would make of him? Putin. The uk is starting to look like the slightly bonkers uncle you avoid at weddings already, certainly when you compare us the slick new Canadian chap, and the new French leader (not le pen) we don't need corbyn reinforcing the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banjodeano Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Ok let's open the dialogue. Argies: we want the falklands, they are ours from hundreds of years ago Corbyn: maybe we could share them Islanders: no! And so it goes on. Unless there's a groundswell for change, shouldn't we let the residents decide. It's a non-issue. This is why I'm not a fan of corbyn, he's the sort who thinks there's always middle ground and there isn't always middle ground. The falklands is one, relitivly minor case. What do you think trump would make of him? Putin. The uk is starting to look like the slightly bonkers uncle you avoid at weddings already, certainly when you compare us the slick new Canadian chap, and the new French leader (not le pen) we don't need corbyn reinforcing the idea. whoooaaa, we are getting ahead of ourselves here... i just posted that people believe he wants to give the Falklands away, i was just highlighting that some people believe anything... as for the falklands, did he actually say he wants to give them away, did he even say lets share them? i dont recall that he did, all i recall is he said lets open dialogues with the argies, nothing more, nothing less, and in that dialogue the islanders views should come into the equation, and after all the dialogue, and if things have not changed, then so be it, but talking is better than not talking, it could save lives if any attempt was made to recapture the Falklands by the argies, perhaps after any talks, the argies may seem like its a lost cause..... But all this is just a distraction from what was being discussed, and to be honest i cant be bothered getting into a debate about the Falklands, so i am leaving the falklands debate here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacktari Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Ah excellent. Expect most people to lose 4 days holiday a year as companies just absorb the new BHs into their existing number of holiday days. Which would be another example of how little respect these companies you refer to have for their employees. It really is time the employees of today stood up for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Which would be another example of how little respect these companies you refer to have for their employees. It really is time the employees of today stood up for themselves. I agree. Never have Unions been more needed to stand up for the rights of the workers. I have never seen the working population; the real generators of wealth, more cowed, demoralised and subservient. People need to realise the big corporate bosses never give you anything, you have to fight every inch for it. 'Capitalism is the extraordinary belief that the nastiest of men, for the nastiest of motives, will somehow work for the benefit of all.' John Maynard Keynes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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