Be prepared for a shock - No triple lock = No vote.

[Anna B]

Just to calm all the anger at the glorious life us OAP's are living.

Remember, even with my other pensions taken into account, I am still on less than half of my working wage.

Not a problem for me, at least I don't have to go to work anymore.

But it still takes some getting used to.

 

So you young ones have nothing to be jealous of.

We must fight together, for if we allow them to divide us, we are as good as done.

 

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Not allegedly, I am an engineer.

The wealth of this country was squandered by the corrupt government of the 1980's.

People since then seem to be living in some fantasy land, where wealth is created from nothing.

The only way to create wealth is from manufacturing and industry.

Manipulation of wealth by capitalism can only lead to extreme poverty.

It is a massive confidence trick.

 

Mmm you're right of course, but these days we have a financial system that can indeed create wealth out of nothing, and a whole host of very rich people who have never done a days work in their lives but just sit and watch their investments grow.

[tinfoilhat]

Mmm you're right of course, but these days we have a financial system that can indeed create wealth out of nothing, and a whole host of very rich people who have never done a days work in their lives but just sit and watch their investments grow.

 

Like pensioners..........

[Jacktari]

Like pensioners..........

 

When you have worked for it, then you can talk.

[tinfoilhat]

When you have worked for it, then you can talk.

 

Pensions are linked to the investment ""spivs" but you knew that right?

[andyofborg]

Without it, the modern world could not function, so it has made a fortune.

 

the modern world would function much better without most microsoft products

[Ms Macbeth]

No it wasn't, the state pension was to be paid till you died otherwise it would then have to be replaced with other forms of benefits.

 

As a few years after retirement was most people's life expectancy (if they were lucky), El Cid's right.

[El Cid]

Around 50% of pensioners today only get just the one state pension and some not even at the higher rate.

 

When people can easily live past 90, they must be ill-advised not to save for their later life. At the very least buy your own property.

With the death of the Labour party looming, would you trust the Tories with your only pension?

[Obelix]

Your and my ideas of manufacturing are totally different.

By manufacturing I mean a product.

Doctors, in the main, produce well and healthy people, when given an ill person.

An Engineer creates a product to the requirements of whoever requests his services. Whether he or she builds it themselves, or employs others to do it, is bye the bye.

Both are wealth creators, as are the people supporting them.

 

Capitalists are just casino men, whose like can be found in any betting shop throughout the world. Spivs.

They are drones on wealth creators, the world could continue quite well, and better, come to that, without them.

 

You have no idea what a capitalist actually is, and you use it as a go to handle to beat things you dont like because you know it gets the usualy chorus to sit up and agree like a load of Pavlovian dogs.

 

You are an engineer? I would have thought you would understand at least the concept between selling disinterested counsel as an engineering service and the actual act of making and building something. What engineering discipline did you do?

[Cyclone]

Perhaps he's confused the term engineer with technician.

[Anna B]

Like pensioners..........

 

Well I walked into that one..

 

But seriously most pensioners have worked hard and paid taxes for 40 or 50 years, as well as bringing up the next generation. And now a lot of them are helping out with the Grandkids, their own aged parents, voluntary work etc, so they're not exactly idle.

 

I also know quite a few who are still working because they say they can't afford to retire. I don't know how they do it, I'm exhausted at this age and simply couldn't work any longer.

 

I hate to use the old cliche, but you too will be old one day.

 

What's your solution for dealing with OAPs?