Waldo Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Here I suspect. http://i.imgur.com/YqzLnWm.jpg The markings say M1N. The white car entered this lane before the markings for M1N & R'ham. I understand that they are confusing, but that does not grant you the right to cut across lanes in such a way as this. The driver of the white vehicle could see the lanes clearly when on the roundabout and cut across them into the path of the black car. If there were no lanes, this would be a different issue and it would be had to determine who was at fault, but as the lanes are clear and pretty new by the look of it, the driver of the white car should not have crossed them without first indicting and checking it was safe to do so. This, and also what Obelix said. White car is most in the wrong. ---------- Post added 18-05-2017 at 11:16 ---------- I think the fact its caused such disagreements/confusion on here says it all. The road markings just before the roundabout contradict the markings ON the roundabout. Lets say the white car is off to Magna, gets in the left lane before the RA which says left or straight on, but once on the RA is apparently forced to go left onto the viaduct. Common sense says the left lane would be for a left turn but if you dont know the roads and follow the arrows once your on the RA its too late. The most surprising thing about this is that they arent more accidents there! Also agree, it's a little concerning that we're not all on the same page here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_N Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 This, and also what Obelix said. White car is most in the wrong. So please tell us which car should the white car go in then for Rotherham (Magna). It clearly is signed left lane, yet you and others are saying they should ignore the road markings and just drive in the middle lane to cut across like the black car did - and ultimately cause an accident? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berberis Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 The last sign on the road is no more than 10 metres back from the r/a. Right..from now on I'll ignore any lane markings and drive as I please...should be fun but hey, it's a company car The sign is 344ft according to a number of online maps which is 104m from the point of the accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 The last sign on the road is no more than 10 metres back from the r/a. Right..from now on I'll ignore any lane markings and drive as I please...should be fun but hey, it's a company car You could do that. OR, you could just follow road signs and markings, and if any contradict previous markings, just follow instruction given by the most recent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailyBoy Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 The sign is 344ft according to a number of online maps which is 104m from the point of the accident. Which lane approaching the roundabout should the white car be in to go to Rotherham? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 The sign is 344ft according to a number of online maps which is 104m from the point of the accident. Which,the one that says M1N and ROTH? Looking Back here the sign isn't that far from the r/a entrance https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Meadowhall/@53.4133717,-1.4031075,3a,75y,265.4h,68.19t/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x487977903c645bb3:0x38418092d9fe50ee!8m2!3d53.414405!4d-1.4110398?hl=en 4 car lengths..(about) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berberis Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 So please tell us which car should the white car go in then for Rotherham (Magna). It clearly is signed left lane, yet you and others are saying they should ignore the road markings and just drive in the middle lane to cut across like the black car did - and ultimately cause an accident? No one is refuting the signage is incorrect, but this does not give the driver of the white vehicle the right to swerve across the lanes into the path of the black car. It would appear the correct lane is the middle lane looking at the 3D and streetview data. http://imgur.com/a/dIvFG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 So please tell us which car should the white car go in then for Rotherham (Magna). It clearly is signed left lane, yet you and others are saying they should ignore the road markings and just drive in the middle lane to cut across like the black car did - and ultimately cause an accident? Where am I saying you shouod ignore road markings? I did suggest, after the post you quoted, that following the most recently given instruction (road marking or signage), may not be a bad idea (esp, where they contrarict each other). What do you think to that notion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 You could do that. OR, you could just follow road signs and markings, and if any contradict previous markings, just follow instruction given by the most recent. I assume you reckon the white car didn't do this? Which sign was the most recent he will have passed over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailyBoy Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 No one is refuting the signage is incorrect, but this does not give the driver of the white vehicle the right to swerve across the lanes into the path of the black car. It would appear the correct lane is the middle lane looking at the 3D and streetview data. http://imgur.com/a/dIvFG So for Rotherham they should use the lane M1S/Bawtry, not M1N/R'Ham? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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