Who's at fault here in this car crash

[Supertramp]

But the lane markers are there simply for cars coming around the roundabout from other entry points. Look at almost any roundabout with more than 1 lane on it, it would be impossible to do anything except leave at the first exit if you weren't allowed to go over those lane markings.

 

But everyone is right that those markings are indeed dire.

 

This is how roundabouts should be marked.

 

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Ecclesall+Rd,+Sheffield/@53.3738904,-1.4790013,3a,75y,235.92h,81.1t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1siM77YmZAPSy87J2sHWbMUw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DiM77YmZAPSy87J2sHWbMUw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D130.44421%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x4879826e933e7221:0xb8f279530e8f8476!8m2!3d53.3693405!4d-1.4948065

 

See the lane boundary from the entry explicitly crossing over the lane boundary for people already on the roundabout

 

---------- Post added 19-05-2017 at 09:55 ----------

 

Seriously?

 

Which lane should the white car use to go to R'Ham?

 

Which lane should the Audi use for the M1N?

 

Yes your keyboard is definitely broken.

[spider1]

Look to you all roundabouts are very dangerous places at the best of times . It

is plain stupid to change lanes without checking its clear to do so . It doesnt give you the right to run in to some one because they are in the wrong lane does it. Check its clear to change lanes before you do and if you run in to some one its your fault / So who ran in to who

[mafya]

Where is Planner1?

Maybe he can shed some light on the issue?

[Event Horizo]

BOTH cars should have been aware of each other and the rather low impact crash could have been prevented. However black car's fault as road markings show white car was in correct lane on approach.

[*_ash_*]

I thought I was having deja vu

 

link to same this in 2015

[Obelix]

Can you point this person out?

 

see Post #94

[Jim Hardie]

......black car's fault as road markings show white car was in correct lane on approach.

 

Can Mr Black Car be expected to know that? He was probably concentrating on the lane he was in and the white car crossed into it and so I don't think he can be held wholly responsible.

I would apportion blame as:

Road Markings 40%

Black Car 50%

White Car 10% (he should have been aware of black car)

[haddy]

Black car is in wrong! Everyone quoting Google maps / street view must remember these are not up to date pictures and so the info in these may no longer be correct which is the case here. A quick check i get one picture which shows both lanes turn left a bit further forward and is shows the current layout. What should be taken is what is shown in tbe video

[Bodie]

well done Ash you wasn't expecting many replies but got 20 pages

I reckon we should all get there about 17:00 today and discuss it while looking at the actual markings

 

If I end up there on my own I'll not be happy and end up getting run over by someone in the wrong lane

[WarPig]

I'm there now, driving around it with my blindfold on, just like everyone else seems to do.