Manchester Arena explosion 22/05/2017

[tinfoilhat]

..........far too soon! in bad taste for the music industry to promote itself. A lot of people will be upset!

 

A lot won't be as well, and, my error, it's at old Trafford cricket ground not the arena. There was a few on 5live who went to original gig who were keen to go - and they'll get in free. One of the Gallagher brothers has done something to as I understand it (smaller, with more local bands) which is a good thing too.

[nikki-red]

A lot won't be as well, and, my error, it's at old Trafford cricket ground not the arena. There was a few on 5live who went to original gig who were keen to go - and they'll get in free. One of the Gallagher brothers has done something to as I understand it (smaller, with more local bands) which is a good thing too.

 

 

Well I hope to make them feel at ease the security will be better than it was when we were there on Saturday night. We were shocked by how lax it was.

[ECCOnoob]

Well I hope to make them feel at ease the security will be better than it was when we were there on Saturday night. We were shocked by how lax it was.

 

Would you have still been as shocked if the tragic incident did not happen? Or would you not have even thought about it.

 

I am not being a jerk but I'm just curious as to what extra measures you think were lacking. There's always got to be a balance between tight security and practicality of a venue that has to get thousands of people in and out efficiently and for a set time.

 

I have had a few people in my office commenting about Sheffield arena and demanding that there should be full body and bag searches for every single entrant The fact is people get the hump about airport security queues ( which has to be even tighter) are they really going to quietly and patiently wait outside a venue for hours whilst every single entrant gets a 5 minute probing.

 

Let's also not forget that this tragic event happened at the end of a gig. The doors were open for a very simple reason - to be ready for the thousands of exiting people who were going to be surging out a couple minutes after.

 

I can fully understand people becoming concerned and having a reaction to events such as this but the reality is that we all have to live our lives and not be ruled by these individuals. Creating a world of Fear with Big Brother cameras watching over everyone of us wherever we go and every routine aspect of our lives turning into martial law is giving in.

Edited May 30, 2017 by ECCOnoob

[nikki-red]

We were all told to get there early because of the extra security checks, we thought this was fair enough in light of what had happened days before.

 

There were four of us, only one was searched and that was half heartedly.

We got to the tickets scanners, handed over our 4 tickets for the guy to say 'stuff that Im only scanning one' (insert your own expletive to replace 'stuff')

During the gig there was easily 30 flares set off. We asked a security guard near us how theyd managed to get them into the ground, he said that the police would be watching them and would catch them on their way out.

Theyd watch them leave in the middle of 50,000 people? As if! And surely if people were managing to take stuff like that in then surely by the time they were on their way out it could be too late.

[Penistone999]

Where has my post disappeared to?

There was no swearing in it and I can't see any reason for it being removed so would the mod who has removed it please make themselves known and point out why my post has been removed.

 

Please contact the Helpdesk :hihi:

[TORONTONY]

We were all told to get there early because of the extra security checks, we thought this was fair enough in light of what had happened days before.

 

There were four of us, only one was searched and that was half heartedly.

We got to the tickets scanners, handed over our 4 tickets for the guy to say 'stuff that Im only scanning one' (insert your own expletive to replace 'stuff')

During the gig there was easily 30 flares set off. We asked a security guard near us how theyd managed to get them into the ground, he said that the police would be watching them and would catch them on their way out.

Theyd watch them leave in the middle of 50,000 people? As if! And surely if people were managing to take stuff like that in then surely by the time they were on their way out it could be too late.

The thing to remember is that the suicide bomber was never in the audience on that terrible night, h e was lurking for the concert to end and do his evil deeds as people were leaving. That will never happen again.

[Hairyloon]

I absolutely get your point, sad that others don't but just shows their thinking.

 

oh i think i get the point but its a grey area so clarification would be good, just to be sure:thumbsup:

 

Clearly you don't, else you would realise that no clarification on my part would be any help at all.

What is needed is clarification of your proposed rule, which was, as I recall: "lock up anybody rallying outside a mosque."

 

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actually who is holding the rally is relevant???? if those holding the rally are inciting hatred, inciting others to kill is very relevant,

Well that is already illegal: no new rules necessary. Or do you want to arrest anybody who stops to listen?

 

i didnt say ban any rally just the ones inciting hate.

 

Consider for a moment this one, which some of you might recogni9se:

That is why no amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for <these people> that inflicted those bitter experiences on me.

So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin. They condemned millions of first-class people to semi-starvation. Now they are pouring out money in propaganda of all sorts and are hoping by this organised sustained mass suggestion to eradicate from our minds all memory of what we went through...

 

Pretty hateful don't you think? Should he have been locked up?

And how do you know if a rally is going to incite hatred until it does, so how do you propose your ban should work?

[mafya]

Came across this article about a surgeon who stayed up all night to save victims of the Manchester bombing and was racially abused hours later himself= https://openyoureyestohate.com/surgeon-racially-abused/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=170530_oye2h_oye2h_blog&utm_term=un_pc_and_proud

This is the aim of the terrorists, to cause divisions between Muslims and non Muslims and it seems to be heading that way.

Hatred will only breed more hatred and it is not the answer.....

[top4718]

Came across this article about a surgeon who stayed up all night to save victims of the Manchester bombing and was racially abused hours later himself= https://openyoureyestohate.com/surgeon-racially-abused/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=170530_oye2h_oye2h_blog&utm_term=un_pc_and_proud

This is the aim of the terrorists, to cause divisions between Muslims and non Muslims and it seems to be heading that way.

Hatred will only breed more hatred and it is not the answer.....

 

I think the Muslims are doing a pretty good job of that without outside help.

 

Its time we toughened up - get CCTV in mosques/places of faith if any hint of radicalisation is detected close the place down immediately, if theres nothing to hide theres nothing to fear. These things are built at taxpayers expense and the taxpayer should have an idea of whats being preached in them.

[nowt2pctoday]

Clearly you don't, else you would realise that no clarification on my part would be any help at all.

What is needed is clarification of your proposed rule, which was, as I recall: "lock up anybody rallying outside a mosque."

 

---------- Post added 31-05-2017 at 11:40 ----------

 

Well that is already illegal: no new rules necessary. Or do you want to arrest anybody who stops to listen?

 

 

 

Consider for a moment this one, which some of you might recogni9se:

 

 

Pretty hateful don't you think? Should he have been locked up?

And how do you know if a rally is going to incite hatred until it does, so how do you propose your ban should work?

 

 

come come now its hardly the same is it:hihi: a socialist deriding Tories nothing new there:hihi: again i say if someone outside any building? mosque or other is inciting to kill then they and the followers should be arrested, deported or interned ?? you are just being obtuse. occasionally thy arrest the head speech maker but not the followers?? why? because of cultural sensitivities, you know it and i know it.