Branyy Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Says a lot about you as a person if you think internment is ok. What about the innocent Muslims who will end up being interned? I've never suggested internment of the innocent ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairyloon Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 I've never suggested internment of the innocent ones. So have you abandoned the principle of innocent until proven guilty? It's not clear what it is you are proposing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nowt2pctoday Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Says a lot about you as a person if you think internment is ok. What about the innocent Muslims who will end up being interned? Internment is the only way forward now for individuals who are shown to have sympathy with any radical groups or connections to the same. obviously there are a great number of Muslims that will not be affected by this and nor should they be. it actually may help the communities to weed out the ones within that are involved in various areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairyloon Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Internment is the only way forward now for individuals who are shown to have sympathy with any radical groups or connections to the same... Define "sympathy". Define "connection". Perhaps I shop in the same branch of Sainsbury's as some radicals: that's a connection. And if these people must have had some serious **** go down to make them blow themselves up, then that is sympathy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Internment is the only way forward now for individuals who are shown to have sympathy with any radical groups or connections to the same. obviously there are a great number of Muslims that will not be affected by this and nor should they be. it actually may help the communities to weed out the ones within that are involved in various areas. Stop being an idiot, seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nowt2pctoday Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Define "sympathy". Define "connection". Perhaps I shop in the same branch of Sainsbury's as some radicals: that's a connection. And if these people must have had some serious **** go down to make them blow themselves up, then that is sympathy... openly supporting by social media, attending rallys outside mosques, searching and downloading Jihadi and terrorist material , incitement to join isis or any radical group, openly protesting on the streets of the uk and threatening to behead those against islam????? not the loose silly sainsburys connection. ---------- Post added 28-05-2017 at 11:37 ---------- Stop being an idiot, seriously. stop being part of the problem:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 stop being part of the problem:rolleyes: By not wanting internment camps I'm part of the problem? Ok.............. Explain that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 By not wanting internment camps I'm part of the problem? Ok.............. Explain that i think itll be...youre supporting terrorists thatll be coming, or something to do with wishy washy liberals have caused all this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPEN BORDERS Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Spent a lot of time reading / watch TV coverage / TV discussions etc over the weekend so far. In all honesty we as a country have no idea how to combat another atrocity like Monday night in Manchester. There seems to be no middle ground agreement, Left, Right, Black, White, Christian, Muslim etc etc Now figures vary about the people who are a potential / direct threat to us. The bottom line figure is 3000 - now that's a lot of people. The Manchester / Westminster murderers were not included in the 3000 Now we all know the the vast majority of Muslims are as disgusted as everybody else. But the brutal honest truth is - its Muslims by and large who carry out such atrocities. I don't think for one moment its the fault of our Foreign policies alone. Maybe our governments have made mistakes. Usually the use of our military has been authorised by Parliament. We are a democratic country after all. How many of the 3000 I mentioned, abhor music concerts, want Sharia Law, agree with wife beating etc How do 'we' convince those people to change their views ? Those 3000 will not agree with democracy. There will be more attacks like this, probably in the not too distant future. It takes one man, a rucksack, and few sympathisers to help him on his way. Do we really want the Army deployed on our streets becoming the 'norm' ! You can only conclude that the people carrying out these acts are 'Jihadi's' carrying out their idea of Islam. How we stop them I have no idea. This country needs a big discussion, but our Politicians / Faith leaders are too scared in my opinion. One thing is for sure our OPEN BORDER policy, forced on us by the EU has not helped our Security Services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 But the brutal honest truth is - its Muslims by and large who carry out such atrocities. you know what, its also predominently male, 99% or so are males in both terrorism AND while we're on the subject, Peadophillia, but the sex of the attackers doesnt matter, just the religion ---------- Post added 28-05-2017 at 12:31 ---------- I don't think for one moment its the fault of our Foreign policies alone. Maybe our governments have made mistakes. Usually the use of our military has been authorised by Parliament. We are a democratic country after all. How many of the 3000 I mentioned, abhor music concerts, want Sharia Law, agree with wife beating etc How do 'we' convince those people to change their views ? Those 3000 will not agree with democracy. There will be more attacks like this, probably in the not too distant future. It takes one man, a rucksack, and few sympathisers to help him on his way. Do we really want the Army deployed on our streets becoming the 'norm' ! You can only conclude that the people carrying out these acts are 'Jihadi's' carrying out their idea of Islam. again i think youre completely wrong, the ones wanting sharia law, beatings, etc are the ones NOT doing the attacks, they are the ones in syria and iraq etc, doing the propaganda videos and texts and getting young and stupid "boys" and young men to do the dirty work. Like the Manchester attack, a lot of these "boys" are easily lead, feel alienated and angry, and ultimately get suckered into it thinking they are doing the right thing. You look at the ages of all those recently dead or arrested for these attacks, most are between 20 and 30?, you only get the odd few of later age groups. also most already have a penchent for petty crime, drugs and violence. It seems its easy for the propaganda to sway them and make them angry against the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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