chalga Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Your missing the point about Farage and UKIP a bit, you have to take some responsibility for them too ! Farage and UKIP were the turning point for what got you into where you are today,a total shambles and still some people are digging away at the same hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_W Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Farage and UKIP were the turning point for what got you into where you are today,a total shambles and still some people are digging away at the same hole. So tell me how and why Farage and UKIP managed to do that and then tell me what could or should have been done to prevent it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANGELFIRE1 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 He's a back bencher at best with radical views which I repeat appeal to the baser human instincts. For me he is a total embarrassment both in the U.K. and particularly in Europe.A totally nasty man with no solutions,just a rabble rouser. Farage as P.M.? I suppose it could happen as Trump (another obnoxious specimen )became president.What a joke. I hope that we in the U.K.collectively have more sense. As I am a UKipper can you add fuel to your fire and give me plain facts please. What are his "radical" views and which "baser" human instincts do you refer to. Why is Nigel a "total embarrassment" . What makes him "nasty". "Solutions" to what exactly. Angel1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalga Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 So tell me how and why Farage and UKIP managed to do that and then tell me what could or should have been done to prevent it ? By stampeding a Prime Minister into giving a promise of a referendum and then subsequent blunders by him and following government figures to bring you to where you are now,backed up by a rabid anti EU right wing media whipping up people with nothing more than lies,innuendo,dog whistle politics and half truths. What could have been done about it is like I said before,people outside of government,Joe public,having their own minds to see through the B/S,realising that it can't just have been all about the EU and immigrants,accepting some responsibility for allowing themselves to be played by all of the above and being part of the lie that was spread that it was all the foreigners fault,and only Brexit could solve it..........if only it were just about Brexit now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lottiecass Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 The election result would have been different if Farage was still ukips leader his replacement wasn't fit for the job.Say what you like about Farage,he is still popular with many for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_W Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 By stampeding a Prime Minister into giving a promise of a referendum and then subsequent blunders by him and following government figures to bring you to where you are now,backed up by a rabid anti EU right wing media whipping up people with nothing more than lies,innuendo,dog whistle politics and half truths. What could have been done about it is like I said before,people outside of government,Joe public,having their own minds to see through the B/S,realising that it can't just have been all about the EU and immigrants,accepting some responsibility for allowing themselves to be played by all of the above and being part of the lie that was spread that it was all the foreigners fault,and only Brexit could solve it..........if only it were just about Brexit now. You need to go back a bit further I still think your missing the point, if the other political parties had taken into consideration peoples fears and issues regarding immigration before Farage and UKIP grabbed it, then maybe things would be so different, instead they all stood back frightened to engage the subject, that is why we are where we are ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 As I am a UKipper can you add fuel to your fire and give me plain facts please. What are his "radical" views and which "baser" human instincts do you refer to. Why is Nigel a "total embarrassment" . What makes him "nasty". "Solutions" to what exactly. Angel1. His baser human instincts are to blame foreigners, specifically the EU for all our ills, when - as this week has proved - we can quite happily screw things up ourselves. He likes Donald trump - if that doesn't make you nasty by default I don't know what does. Oh and he lies - like all the time. ---------- Post added 10-06-2017 at 15:50 ---------- You need to go back a bit further I still think your missing the point, if the other political parties had taken into consideration peoples fears and issues regarding immigration before Farage and UKIP grabbed it, then maybe things would be so different, instead they all stood back frightened to engage the subject, that is why we are where we are ! There's a grain of truth in that - reflected in the amount of labour strongholds who voted in large numbers for brexit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny5 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Farage is a turd that won't flush but not as funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lottiecass Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 They all lie, tinfoil and when they aren't they're avoid answering straight questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sedith Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 It was mentioned on the Last Leg last night that being a UKIP leader is like being Doctor Who, every couple of months the leader regenerates into Nigel Farage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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