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Has anybody ever asked the question why it costs £9,000 a year in tuition fees? It seems to be yet another figure plucked out of thin air. Where's the itemised bill? How is it broken down?

 

Why are our University fees the highest in the world?

 

It seems to me they charge it simply because they can - and get away with it...

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No I said you would avoid losing £300k by not voting Tory. It seems you deliberately misinterpreted it to score a cheap point.

 

Anyway like you said you're not supporting the institutionalised theft May and the equity release vultures in the city had jointly planned. So that's good. Hundreds of thousands of families dodged a bullet there. Thank God.

 

I didn't misinterpret anything, deliberately or not. Gordon Bennett, are you denying you wrote what I put in inverted commas?

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I didn't misinterpret anything, deliberately or not. Gordon Bennett, are you denying you wrote what I put in inverted commas?

 

No I'm not but what bit of 'not vote Tory' given my political stance do you not comprehend :hihi:

 

Like I said, cheap point. If that's what you're reduced to then that's good though the most important thing for me is your rejection of the dementia tax. It's important as many people as possible oppose that ever getting into a manifesto ever again and it's great you agree.

 

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Has anybody ever asked the question why it costs £9,000 a year in tuition fees? It seems to be yet another figure plucked out of thin air. Where's the itemised bill? How is it broken down?

 

Why are our University fees the highest in the world?

 

It seems to me they charge it simply because they can - and get away with it...

 

It would be interesting to see the answer to to this.

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Has anybody ever asked the question why it costs £9,000 a year in tuition fees? It seems to be yet another figure plucked out of thin air. Where's the itemised bill? How is it broken down?

 

Why are our University fees the highest in the world?

 

It seems to me they charge it simply because they can - and get away with it...

 

Capitalism writ large. How many queuing to get into these rip off universities are from abroad? Plenty if Sheffield (and after recent trips to Canterbury and oxford) are anything to go by.

 

They're investing heavily on massive student accommodation and SUs - and they're building the latter like high end bars because students don't want to sit in a crappy 60s building with a sticky carpet nursing a pint of snakebite anymore. It's the whole student experience and it ain't cheap.

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No. My child's future is much more important than any amount of money.

 

Are you suggesting that voting for the people who keep increasing the tuition fee's and the interest rate for student loans have the future of children in mind?

 

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I'm curious.

 

Does everyone vote based on how it effects them personally?

 

Does anyone vote based on what they think will be done for the country as a whole, actually including other people?

 

I voted for what I think was best for the country, it's arguably against my own personal interest.

 

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Has anybody ever asked the question why it costs £9,000 a year in tuition fees? It seems to be yet another figure plucked out of thin air. Where's the itemised bill? How is it broken down?

 

Why are our University fees the highest in the world?

 

It seems to me they charge it simply because they can - and get away with it...

 

For comparison, $33.5k+ is the average private university fee in the US (for a 4 year course).

 

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Capitalism writ large. How many queuing to get into these rip off universities are from abroad? Plenty if Sheffield (and after recent trips to Canterbury and oxford) are anything to go by.

 

They're investing heavily on massive student accommodation and SUs - and they're building the latter like high end bars because students don't want to sit in a crappy 60s building with a sticky carpet nursing a pint of snakebite anymore. It's the whole student experience and it ain't cheap.

 

Fee's for foreign students are much higher, these fee's subsidise UK students effectively.

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Has anybody ever asked the question why it costs £9,000 a year in tuition fees? It seems to be yet another figure plucked out of thin air. Where's the itemised bill? How is it broken down?

 

Some figures here:

 

https://www.nus.org.uk/en/advice/money-and-funding/average-costs-of-living-and-study/

 

Average course costs for full-time higher education are the same across England: £10,133 for each academic year. This breaks down as follows:

 

£8,354 for tuition fees

£709 for travel

£1,070 for books, equipment and so on.

 

I've never known any students pay £700 per year for travel or £1000 per year for "books, equipment and so on".

 

For the latter there are notice boards in unis where second and third year students sell their books to first year students. When I went to uni in 2006 I spent barely £30 on second hand books.

 

Further down, this is interesting in the bundled costs:

 

If you live and study in London, you should expect your total average expenditure to be £23,521 each academic year. This breaks down as follows:

 

£10,133 for course costs

£13,388 for living costs

(£6,143 for rent, £1,956 for food, £316 for household goods, £65 for insurance, £2,074 for personal items, £1,524 for travel and £1,310 for leisure).

 

Why should leisure be counted?

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I wouldnt have voted for Labour for £5 million .

 

No of course not :hihi:

 

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You could buy your own Dumpit site for £50k and invite all the white van drivers in.

 

filled with copies of the Sun, Mail, Express, complete with egg on face

 

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No , i just hate Socialism

 

Why's that then ?

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Some figures here:

 

https://www.nus.org.uk/en/advice/money-and-funding/average-costs-of-living-and-study/

 

 

 

I've never known any students pay £700 per year for travel or £1000 per year for "books, equipment and so on".

 

For the latter there are notice boards in unis where second and third year students sell their books to first year students. When I went to uni in 2006 I spent barely £30 on second hand books.

 

Further down, this is interesting in the bundled costs:

 

 

 

Why should leisure be counted?

 

Why is living costs counted? They'd have to live whether they went to Uni or not.

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I've never known any students pay £700 per year for travel or £1000 per year for "books, equipment and so on".

 

For the latter there are notice boards in unis where second and third year students sell their books to first year students. When I went to uni in 2006 I spent barely £30 on second hand books.

 

 

Not always. Some subjects rely on having up to date books because the information changes annually.

 

Law is a very good case in point. When I did my law degree, the year I started, a very important law (The trusts of land and appointment of trustees act) came into force. It wasn't covered in the land law books for the year before. Ditto now, EU Law books have changed significantly. Statute books that we used and were able to take into some exams also changed annually.

 

Some students had at the time little choice but to buy the most up to date books.

 

That said, I would have thought there would have been some new digital way of keeping them up to date now. I was a student in the 90s, so lots has changed.

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