El Cid Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Quite a nasty tit for tat battle about cladding on PMQs today with May saying that the cladding started during the Blair administration. Not sure how that excuses flammable materials. Things go wrong, but there have now, for quite a few years, been recommendations after serious fires in other tower blocks. In the Blair years, the enquirers came after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 The question is how do YOU know? You were the one that said they were meeting to discuss cladding. I take your second point completely. They were going to discuss what is effectively a materials list which included cladding. Are you now arguing that cladding wasnt on the list. ---------- Post added 28-06-2017 at 18:04 ---------- Things go wrong, but there have now, for quite a few years, been recommendations after serious fires in other tower blocks. In the Blair years, the enquirers came after. There's multiple political aspects. There the national aspect which whether they like it or not the Tories are responsible for. It is their job to set up enquiries, reviews etc..., devise a strategy for dealing with thousands of dangerous dwellings, and to take steps to avoid a repeat. They cannot avoid it. It is their job and blame is not what the public are looking for right now from them. Then there is the local political aspect. Dozens of councils and local authorities with serious questions to answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Hardie Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 They were going to discuss what is effectively a materials list which included cladding. Are you now arguing that cladding wasnt on the list. You know exactly what l'm arguing. It would have taken them from here to kingdom come to discuss every material that was on that list so your assertion that they met 'to discuss cladding' was at best a stab in the dark. Don't believe everything Greenpeace say because they know as much as you and me. At least they had the good grace to say they met to discuss 'materials such as cladding'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNewton69 Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 (edited) Rock Feilding Mellen. You couldn't make that name up for a Tory toff. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tory-charge-grenfell-tower-refurbishment-10722834 Edited July 2, 2017 by JNewton69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukdobby Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Why employ a retired judge to look into this?Doesn't make sense to be he'll be living in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Rex Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Why employ a retired judge to look into this?Doesn't make sense to be he'll be living in the past. He only retired in December 2016. I guess non retired Judges would have a busy work load. Whoever was chosen, would not suit everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Why employ a retired judge to look into this?Doesn't make sense to be he'll be living in the past. isnt it the past he'll be looking into? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukdobby Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 isnt it the past he'll be looking into? Well he's all ready told the people they won't get the outcome they hope for. The guys retired why not leave him retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 currently another block of london flats is on fire https://twitter.com/i/moments/881476515241893888 luckily they are unoccupied Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrinkly67 Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 I see where amnesty if to be given to anyone who was acting illegally by sub-letting flats at Grenfell. Double edged sword - this way there's some chance of finding out who have lost their lives, but condoning what was illegal in order to do so. Like everyone, I have found this so distressing and also the aftermath of continuing chaos. I feel so genuinely sorry for everyone affected. And how horrible to never know if your relative, friend died there. And no-one, whoever they were, deserved such an end. But it worries me that it was known that this was happening but nothing was done about it. So no-one knew who and how many lived there; whether they should even have been in this country. And how many similar circumstances in other developments? And how much possible overcrowding, adding to the numbers of, and making it even more difficult, to escape. Your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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