julado Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 News right now. Three other blocks have combustible cladding. 600 blocks have similar cladding to Grenfell Tower. Councils have been told to send samples of any cladding for testing. Odd, considering a council spokeswoman said Sheffield Tower blocks were safe LAST WEEK. How did she know? On what evidence did she base her assurance? Or was she just spouting rubbish to deflect any concerns from residents?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eater Sundae Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 News right now. Three other blocks have combustible cladding. 600 blocks have similar cladding to Grenfell Tower. Councils have been told to send samples of any cladding for testing. Odd, considering a council spokeswoman said Sheffield Tower blocks were safe LAST WEEK. How did she know? On what evidence did she base her assurance? Or was she just spouting rubbish to deflect any concerns from residents?? I would expect that the default position is "we specify that all work must meet all fire and building regulations, so we are able to say that our buildings are safe". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Most likely the building regulations need updating to not allow the use of inflammable cladding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassett one Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 we don't have for the last 5 months any emergency lighting in the tenants hall owned by the council on gresley road lowedges,and all we get is we are trying to sort it,so what chance do the tower blocks have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eater Sundae Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Most likely the building regulations need updating to not allow the use of inflammable cladding. It looks like it. I must admit that until this event I'd not given any thought to the subject, and just assumed that we would have good standards in place. Until I retired, I was involved in Engineering/Construction (but not Civil Engineering/Architecture), and was always used to safety standards improving year on year, or at least every few years, and certainly not going backwards. As problems arise or are identified, or dangers are no longer regarded as acceptable, solutions are put in place. In this case, it's looking like we actually added a cladding without realising that it could compromise the fire rating of the building as a whole and were then slow to react when this problem was identified. Where I worked, pretty much any change we made to an existing design included a series of risk assessments and safety reviews. Some of these sometimes seemed like going through the motions, as an arse covering excercise, ticking boxes. But they weren't. They were hard work if done properly, and were undertaken to ensure, as best we could, that what we were building was safe, both to construct and to use. There were no end of "what if" scenarios considered. I wonder what level of assessment was made when deciding to clad these buildings, and whether the risk of compromising the fire protection integrity of each flat was ever considered. No doubt this will come out in the enquiry. I bet there are a few designers checking back through their design records to see if they are squeaky clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slip Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Ive not heard anyone mention private flats, do these already have sprinkler system fitted.. eg park hill/urban or what ever its called ..........anyone know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgksheff Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 News right now. Three other blocks have combustible cladding. 600 blocks have similar cladding to Grenfell Tower. Latest update: statement from No 10 should have said 600 towers have cladding. Not necessarily"similar". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Most likely the building regulations need updating to not allow the use of inflammable cladding. I'm staggered that isn't already the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biotechpete Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 I'm staggered that isn't already the case. There seems, at least in some cases like Camden, to be a difference between the type of cladding/insulation specified and the type actually used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 High-rise buildings in London, Manchester, Plymouth, Salford, Sheffield and Halifax have been identified as having the problem cladding. http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/23/cladding-similar-to-grenfell-tower-found-in-tower-blocks-in-six-uk-cities-6729577/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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