gomgeg Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Fruit and veg farmers facing migrant labour shortages http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40354331 There will be plenty of jobs for you there then, sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairyloon Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Fruit and veg farmers facing migrant labour shortages http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40354331 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-eu-migrant-workers-fruit-farm-harry-hall-hunter-partnership-bbc-radio-4-today-a7802381.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-eu-migrant-workers-fruit-farm-harry-hall-hunter-partnership-bbc-radio-4-today-a7802381.html thats the problem innit, people dont think any further than their own nose. get their bee in their bonnet about someat and to hell with everything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Yes, we couldn't possibly discuss the way the negotiations are going... Course not. Why, that would be as daft as discussing the way the football season is going from August onward, instead of waiting until the end of May and seeing how it all works out. Talk to you again in March 2019. That's an absurd comparison. Football: a process from a fixed start to a fixed end. The end is the cumulation of each match (event) during the process. EU departure: a single point of action, at the end of negotiations. What happens during them might be fascinating to you but it does not tell anyone what the end of the process will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairyloon Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 thats the problem innit, people dont think any further than their own nose. get their bee in their bonnet about someat and to hell with everything else To be fair, leaving the EU does not have to mean losing free movement of goods and labour: there was a lot of talk before about staying in the Common Market... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlinate Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 That's an absurd comparison. Football: a process from a fixed start to a fixed end. The end is the cumulation of each match (event) during the process. EU departure: a single point of action, at the end of negotiations. What happens during them might be fascinating to you but it does not tell anyone what the end of the process will be. Single point of action? The UK has already conceded on the first day ( game of the season )that it will be a two phased negotiation with financial terms of leaving being agreed first as the EU demanded, rather than dealt with in the ongoing talks as the UK wanted. 1 nil to the EU. There are many other key points to discuss and reach an agreement on. 1 The border between the Republic and Northern Ireland 2 EU citizens rights to stay in the UK 3 British expats rights in the EU 4 Exports 5 Security 6 Financial regulation Those just off the top of my head. We will see the way things are progressing, and whether it is going for us or against us as the negotiation ( season ) moves on. Negotiation ( season ) ends in March 2019, but we'll have a good idea before then as to whether we're going to be relegated or manage safety depending upon how many wins and how many losses we manage in the intervening period. What we already know is that the very best we can achieve is mid table mediocrity. No top four finish for us, we don't have the players the attack is powderpuff and our defence is suspect. Avoiding relegation to the third world will be a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzijlstra Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 It was you who slagged my Country off by saying we are irrelevant in todays World . As I said we are so irrelevant that millions from far and wide want to live here then proceed to slag us off. As to my life in ten years, it is the same as yours in that who knows the answer. Your country, my country, our country. So defensive Samssong, and what for? You haven't even considered what the future holds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-eu-citizens-uk-theresa-may-settlement-europe-talks-latest-a7803736.html Good news! It seems that uncertainty finally ended! Edited June 22, 2017 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-eu-citizens-uk-theresa-may-settlement-europe-talks-latest-a7803736.html Good news! It seems that uncertainty finally ended! not for all tho allowing them to stay in Britain if they have lived here five years. she refused to reveal the exact date after which new arrivals are no longer guaranteed the status - leaving a group of people uncertain of their UK residency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manlinose Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 1 nil to the EU. There are many other key points to discuss and reach an agreement on. 1 The border between the Republic and Northern Ireland 2 EU citizens rights to stay in the UK 3 British expats rights in the EU 4 Exports 5 Security 6 Financial regulation Those just off the top of my head. We will see the way things are progressing, and whether it is going for us or against us as the negotiation ( season ) moves on. Negotiation ( season ) ends in March 2019, but we'll have a good idea before then as to whether we're going to be relegated or manage safety depending upon how many wins and how many losses we manage in the intervening period. What we already know is that the very best we can achieve is mid table mediocrity. No top four finish for us, we don't have the players the attack is powderpuff and our defence is suspect. Avoiding relegation to the third world will be a result. The problem with the football analogy is that, in football, each match has an equal number of points available The issues to be discussed/negotiated upon as part of leaving the EU all have different "values" depending on the player or spectator, so a good "result" for one UK subject may be a bad one for someone else on the same side There is no victory or defeat, just many outcomes which will affect each of us differently. What you consider to be 1 -nil to the EU, may be considered by some in the UK to be a sensible decision What you consider to be a good outcome on, just picking one random issue you raised, financial regulation, may be detrimental to others in the UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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