ez8004 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Ah, just like any other spend by the government then including the £150+ billion that Trident will cost. So you now expect taxes to go up to pay for this then? About that cost of Trident. When did £30bn become £150+bn? Also, you know that the cost of Trident can't be spent on other public services if you magically decided to not have Trident right? You can't for example spend that money on the NHS. That money is going to be spent on defence regardless because it meets our NATO obligations of 2% GDP on defence. So we are going to spend this money anyway, so what better way to spend it than on a project that is made in the UK, supports thousands of highly skilled UK based jobs and maintains our nation's expertise in nuclear energy. It is because of the submarines' programme that the UK is at the bleeding edge of SMR technologies. You are narrow minded and as oblivious as ever that what is really involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 About that cost of Trident. When did £30bn become £150+bn? The figure of £30bn is just an estimate of the cost of the 4 submarines that's all. Also, you know that the cost of Trident can't be spent on other public services if you magically decided to not have Trident right? Who said it could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L00b Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Looks like the UK is losing the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights. Ordinary people vote in a party heavily influenced by elites. The party heavily influenced by elites then deletes their charter of rights. Quelle surprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexo Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Leaving the EU is a one-off event. The future is (as always) unknown. So let's see what it brings. Most guesses about anything in the future tend to be wrong! Well that's a convincing and rational argument! Thanks, UKIP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 So who is marching to Ted the traitors tune, come on hands up, https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/882881/Brexit-EU-secret-document-truth-British-public Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtkate Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 So who is marching to Ted the traitors tune, come on hands up, https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/882881/Brexit-EU-secret-document-truth-British-public Not good that was hidden from the public, but all the things in that document and what has happened with the EU I support in general. I honestly believe a federal Europe with individual states is the best way for future stability, increased economic growth, increased equality and far less power of corporations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Just wondering if anyone on the Forum has changed their mind on pro or anti Brexit as some of the realities begin to emerge. Most posters seem pretty well entrenched in their views but perhaps some have been swayed one way or the other since the referendum. The major swing is that most Remainers at least now acknowledge the Leaving. I assume that they will act so as to make a success of the UK's future, esp if they're MPs or in positions of power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtkate Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 The major swing is that most Remainers at least now acknowledge the Leaving. I assume that they will act so as to make a success of the UK's future, esp if they're MPs or in positions of power. I would hope so too, and if another referendum in the future puts us back in the EU I hope the leavers offer the same integrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockdoctor Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 I would hope so too, and if another referendum in the future puts us back in the EU I hope the leavers offer the same integrity. A referendum can't put us back in the EU. It would be up to the remaining EU members whether the UK are allowed back. If any application was accepted the UK would have to adopt the Euro and be part of the Schengen area. It would be ludicrous for the UK to rejoin on less favourable terms than when we left. The reality is the UK will never be part of the EU again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Not good that was hidden from the public, but all the things in that document and what has happened with the EU I support in general. I honestly believe a federal Europe with individual states is the best way for future stability, increased economic growth, increased equality and far less power of corporations. You can be Teds trumpeter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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