The Consequences of Brexit [part 4]

[El Cid]

When we joined, I thought we joined the Common Market, not the now EU or am i wrong?

 

So you needed another referendum, because you didn't understand what you were voting for?

 

That sounds familiar

[apelike]

So you needed another referendum, because you didn't understand what you were voting for?

 

That sounds familiar

 

But we didn't vote to join in the first place did we.

[phil752]

So you needed another referendum, because you didn't understand what you were voting for?

 

That sounds familiar

 

you are taking my reply to another thread out of context, standard I guess!! ( where did I mention another referendum )

[chalga]

I certainly think it was the LEXIT vote that proved decisive in swinging the outcome of the referendum towards Leave. A third of Labour party voters backed Leave, and its no coincidence that under Jeremy Corbyn the party has now rejected the economic market liberalism orthodoxy so beloved by both the Blairites and the EU.

 

The constitutional neoliberalism of the EU pits worker against worker. Workers’ rights (a supposed EU strength according to the politically naive) are steadily being eroded. FACT.

 

Landmark judgments by the kangaroo European Court of Justice in the Viking Line and Laval cases have demonstrated the true, anti-worker nature of the EU.

 

In these cases Swedish and Finnish workers attempted to strike in protest at plans to replace them with workers from another EU country on lower-wages. But after being taken to the European kangaroo Court of Injustice these workers were informed that their right to strike CANNOT infringe upon the EU's sacrosanct "four freedoms" (free movement of capital, labour, goods, and services).

 

There you have it. Employers can block legitimate industrial action in any EU country if they deem it to be harmful to the 'four freedoms'. The EU is opposed to social democracy, and indeed socialism. It cannot be reformed. It must be smashed.

 

The EU do not set wage levels in individual countries,governments and employers do.What is stopping employers from replacing workers with lower paid workers in the non EU country of the UK in future,and with workers from the UK?

 

The 2 cases you mention are here,and reading through them,you have been economical with the facts behind them,in order to have a go at the EU:

 

https://www.elaweb.org.uk/resources/ela-briefing/laval-viking-line-and-limited-right-strike

Edited November 26, 2017 by chalga

[Magilla]

Interesting article about the Leave Campaign finances being a bit... illegal....

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/25/electoral-body-rejects-claim-by-vote-leave-that-it-allowed-donations

 

Wonder how that's gunna pan out.....

 

And another, pinch of salt ATM... Louise Mensch so a bit hit and miss:-

https://patribotics.blog/2017/11/24/exclusive-brexit-referendum-may-need-to-be-redone/

Multiple sources with links to UK intelligence report that Russian corruption of the Brexit vote is far worse than previously thought. The referendum on remaining part of the EU received so much illegal foreign money and influence from Russia, these sources say, that UK intelligence is minded to recommend to Theresa May’s government that the Brexit vote be redone, as it is not thought that the vote was ‘free and fair’.

 

It'll be interesting to see the spin on that if it happens.

[Car Boot]

It'll be interesting to see the spin on that if it happens.

 

Don't worry, it is believed that any second vote is likely to have the same final result as the first one. Especially with the way the EU, dripping with hatred and malice, has treated the UK since we voted to Leave.

 

Better off out.

Edited November 26, 2017 by Car Boot

[andyofborg]

things must be bad, even the mail is admitting things may not be rosy in brexitland

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5117679/The-latest-cost-quitting-Brussels-sprouts-crisis.html

[I1L2T3]

Don't worry, it is believed that any second vote is likely to have the same final result as the first one. Especially with the way the EU, dripping with hatred and malice, has treated the UK since we voted to Leave.

 

Better off out.

 

On the contrary, the other 27 countries have methodically and fairly mechanically executed their side of the process in the best interests of their citizens and entirely within the rules of A50.

 

The other 27 countries is the EU right? You get that?

[Magilla]

things must be bad, even the mail is admitting things may not be rosy in brexitland

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5117679/The-latest-cost-quitting-Brussels-sprouts-crisis.html

 

The Mail is running the Russia Story today:-

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-5117723/Nick-Robinson-Putin-using-fake-news-weaken-West.html

Comments are hillarious!

 

Maybe Mensch isn't too far off the mark....

Edited November 26, 2017 by Magilla

[Car Boot]

The 2 cases you mention are here,and reading through them,you have been economical with the facts behind them,in order to have a go at the EU:

 

https://www.elaweb.org.uk/resources/ela-briefing/laval-viking-line-and-limited-right-strike

 

No. I gave an accurate summary of the European Court of Justice ruling regarding Viking and Laval. If you examine the 'Conclusion' in your link it states:

 

"These two rulings impose substantive new restrictions on the lawfulness of industrial action and require the UK courts to adopt a new approach to the grant of injunctive relief, at least where there is a direct international element. Moreover, they may also apply where there is very little or even no direct international element. There is therefore every reason to conclude that Viking Line and Laval have provided employers with a potent new weapon with which to oppose industrial action."

 

The EU is a neoliberal Bosses front. It is anti-worker, and anti-working class.