mafya Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 It’s not an issue. It’s what Tories do all the time when under pressure - they try and switch the argument to other parties. Nobody could have made a bigger hash of Brexit than the Tories but somehow they will try and make that the fault of Cable, Corbyn, UKIP, the SNP or whoever is a suitable target at the time. ---------- Post added 03-12-2017 at 14:17 ---------- New poll suggests growing support for second referendum. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/britons-majority-in-favour-of-public-vote-on-final-brexit-deal-uk-politics-a8089161.html Good chance of it happening IMO. There is going to be a crap storm of news in first half of 2018 and it’s going to make people twitchy ---------- Post added 03-12-2017 at 14:30 ---------- Farage still expects to get his £73k a year EU pension after Brexit http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/entertainment-arts-42213947/nigel-farage-it-s-not-hypocrisy-to-take-eu-pension He’s done ok out of this anti-EU gig. Shame for the rest of us. What a snake. Seeing as Britain will be paying a divorce bill to cover eu pension commitments among other things why should farage despicable as he is not get his EU pension? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Seeing as Britain will be paying a divorce bill to cover eu pension commitments among other things why should farage despicable as he is not get his EU pension? hypocrite, double dealing, hateful, lying, spineless, slimey all come to mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafya Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 hypocrite, double dealing, hateful, lying, spineless, slimey all come to mind All politicians are duplicitous IMO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey104 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 hypocrite, double dealing, hateful, lying, spineless, slimey all come to mind How come? Has not his mission all along been to get the UK out of the eu? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRB Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 How come? Has not his mission all along been to get the UK out of the eu? OK,delete hypocrite and insert fruitcake,looney and closet racist (so said David Cameron). Unfortunately too many listened to his right wing utterances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 How come? Has not his mission all along been to get the UK out of the eu? somebody who wants out of something yet still taking their cash, and will carry on getting their cash after he leaves is a hypocrite of the highest order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Seeing as Britain will be paying a divorce bill to cover eu pension commitments among other things why should farage despicable as he is not get his EU pension? He’s not forced to claim the pension is he....... But he will and for the rest of his life, long after the U.K. leaves the EU. Just pause and think about that for a minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altus Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 If the DUP are so insistent that NI has the same rules as the rest of the UK, are they going to stop blocking the legalisation of abortion and gay marriage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Car Boot Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 If the DUP are so insistent that NI has the same rules as the rest of the UK, are they going to stop blocking the legalisation of abortion and gay marriage? It's the EU that is causing all of the problems here. The Irish Republic doesn't want a physical border with the North. The Northern Irish don't want a physical border with the South. Westminster doesn't want a physical border between Northern Ireland and the South. The EU is demanding either a physical border between Northern Ireland and the Republic, or Northern Ireland has to remain in the Single Market and be governed by EU rules. The EU is behaving dangerously irresponsible. It is prepared to inflame a return to violence if it doesn't get its way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalga Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 (edited) It's the EU that is causing all of the problems here. The Irish Republic doesn't want a physical border with the North. The Northern Irish don't want a physical border with the South. Westminster doesn't want a physical border between Northern Ireland and the South. The EU is demanding either a physical border between Northern Ireland and the Republic, or Northern Ireland has to remain in the Single Market and be governed by EU rules. The EU is behaving dangerously irresponsible. It is prepared to inflame a return to violence if it doesn't get its way... Wrong: Donald Tusk: EU will back Ireland’s Brexit progress decision ‘If the UK offer is unacceptable for Ireland, it will also be unacceptable for the EU,’ European Council president says. And more: In Dublin, Tusk sent a firm message that first and foremost it would be for the Irish government to decide if there has been sufficient progress on Ireland border issues, including provision to protect the Good Friday peace agreement. Varadkar cautioned that the U.K. still had to come forward with clearer proposals about how a hard border would be avoided. “I will consult the Taoiseach [prime minister] if the U.K. offer is sufficient for the Irish government,” Tusk said. “Let me say very clearly: If the U.K. offer is unacceptable for Ireland, it will also be unacceptable for the EU.” He added, “I realize that for some British politicians this may be hard to understand. But such is the logic behind the fact that Ireland is the EU member while the U.K. is leaving.” Varadkar, whose relations with the U.K. have been uneasy at best, said that there had been “some good progress” on all three of the divorce issues. His carefully worded statement stopped far short of the “sufficient progress” that the EU has insisted all along would be needed to close phase one of the negotiations and enter phase two, focused on a transition period and on the framework of a future trade relationship. . Edited December 3, 2017 by chalga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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