altus Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Or the EU's own, many of which have long been published, and all of which have been open to read by any Tom, Dick or Harry David. [linked in anticipation of Leavers' usual hand-waving about the UK "not wanting to show its negotiating hand": as if the EU could not read that hand 20/20 from a mile away!] Hey, perhaps the EU's own impact assessment are those which Davis and his team have been working from, and he just didn't want to be accused of plagiarism by owning up to it in front of the cameras? He's surely blown the "not wanting to show its negotiating hand" gambit by admittingclaiming he hasn't got a clue what the impacts might by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailyBoy Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Chancellor Philip Hammond: The Cabinet has not yet had a full discussion of what should be the Government's preferred "end state position" for the UK after Brexit. Rough translation, 'We're making it up as we go along' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Chancellor Philip Hammond: The Cabinet has not yet had a full discussion of what should be the Government's preferred "end state position" for the UK after Brexit. Rough translation, 'We're making it up as we go along' Breath it in ladies and gentlemen, that's the smell of sovereignty in action! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 seems to be a distinct lack of brexiters on here today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 What if the choices turn out to be really bad, and irrevocable? Ever considered that? Yes. But one will never know (when choosing) what the future holds. So decisions such as the UK's leaving the EU have to be based on reasons other than which direction is imagined to be better value-for-money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Yes. But one will never know (when choosing) what the future holds. So decisions such as the UK's leaving the EU have to be based on reasons other than which direction is imagined to be better value-for-money! or people have a bit of common sense and think sometimes its better the devil you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 The UK electorate voted for a hung Parliament Not quite. That was the outcome but no elector chose it as an option; none could! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANGELFIRE1 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 seems to be a distinct lack of brexiters on here today I'm here, just reading and having a good guffaw at the remoaners who actually think that Brexit can be reversed. There are two things to say about Brexit been reversed so we stay in the corrupt institution that is the EU. 1) No chance of us remaining. 2) Definitely no chance of us remaining. Enjoy your dream, Angel1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 I'm here, just reading and having a good guffaw at the remoaners who actually think that Brexit can be reversed. There are two things to say about Brexit been reversed so we stay in the corrupt institution that is the EU. 1) No chance of us remaining. 2) Definitely no chance of us remaining. Enjoy your dream, Angel1. who mentioned anything about reversing it? have you got any views on the complete shambles and laughing stocks we now look like after todays news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalga Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 And bang goes the 'they need us more than we need them' Brexiter fantasy: In his evidence Hammond said the cost to Britain of leaving the EU without a deal would be far higher than any sum it might pay as a “Brexit bill”. Hammond said: It is clear that the economic and fiscal consequences of getting the right deal for Britain, compared to a less favourable deal for Britain over the years to come, would be significantly larger than any of the sums of money that are in question in this negotiation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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