apelike Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 (edited) ---------- Post added 10-12-2017 at 18:45 ---------- Ahh, so you knew what bits we would lose and what bits we would keep - remind me about next Saturday's numbers again Just remind me what the questions on the referendum paper said? Edited December 10, 2017 by apelike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Another reason to leave is Martin Schultz's desire for a United States of Europe, emulating one of the previous politicians (someone from Austria, in fact) who also wished to create a single superstate albeit by force. See http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/07/german-spd-leader-martinschulz-seeks-united-states-europe-2025/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litotes Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Just remind what the questions on the referendum paper said? Errr..."Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?" And? We appear to be keeping some bits - like open borders... (and paying for the privilege) and yet you appear to have know about some things ahead of time. p.s. Have you noticed that Lloyd's of London now prefers to be know as Lloyd's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altus Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 (edited) Another reason to leave is Martin Schultz's desire for a United States of Europe, Keep up Jeffrey, we've already done that. Shultz didn't win the election and his party had 40 fewer seats than last time. emulating one of the previous politicians (someone from Austria, in fact) who also wished to create a single superstate albeit by force. Bit desperate even for you. It's worth pointing out if you're going to make comparisons that Nigel's pals the anti-EU Alternative für Deutschland are the German nationalist, populist party with links to far right groups and anti-semitism. BTW: What do you think of Breitbart paying for people to work on Nigels brexit campaign but getting them to claim to be volunteers to get around the campaign financing laws? Edited December 10, 2017 by altus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Keep up Jeffrey, we've already done that. Shultz didn't win the election and his party had 40 fewer seats than last time. But he seems likely to be a constituent of a cross-party Coalition [Kohlition?] Government; and that is impending news, not old news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Errr..."Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?" And? We appear to be keeping some bits - like open borders... (and paying for the privilege) and yet you appear to have know about some things ahead of time. I said nothing about knowing some things ahead of time only what the questions stated at the time which people voted on. But this is becoming another circular argument as it has been explained many time on here that there was no in-between or anything else mentioned at the time. p.s. Have you noticed that Lloyd's of London now prefers to be know as Lloyd's? Actually they don't always its just that it is generally known now simply as Lloyds as that is the Corporation that oversees and regulates Lloyds of London. The name Lloyds of London is still in use and they also use that name on twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L00b Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 p.s. Have you noticed that Lloyd's of London now prefers to be know as Lloyd's? Funny you should mention them, they were in the news Friday night. It briefly reminded me of apelike's sig, but I thought Leavers had had enough that day already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalga Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 But he seems likely to be a constituent of a cross-party Coalition [Kohlition?] Government; and that is impending news, not old news. The referendum is over,you're on your way,thank god,how much more anti EU propaganda do you need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 It briefly reminded me of apelike's sig, but I thought Leavers had had enough that day already Actually I may change that sig as it was mainly in response to Oblix sig where he stated Lloyds had left and now he has its no longer relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altus Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 But he seems likely to be a constituent of a cross-party Coalition [Kohlition?] Government; and that is impending news, not old news. So he might be the head of the minor party in a coalition. Come back if he gets it adopted as government policy. ---------- Post added 10-12-2017 at 19:26 ---------- The referendum is over,you're on your way,thank god,how much more anti EU propaganda do you need? UKIP have got to keep up the anti-EU propaganda in case there's another referendum/so they can blame them if they get the brexit they want and it does badly. ---------- Post added 10-12-2017 at 19:33 ---------- I never said the UK would be better off without a deal, but only stated there are good arguments that the UK might be better off without a EU deal. These "good arguments" can't be that good if they don't convince you that the UK would be better off with no deal. When successful businessmen like Tim Martin think the UK will be better off then it shouldn't be ruled out that a no deal would be bad for the UK. You're assuming he doesn't have other considerations - like John Redwood - Leading Brexiteer tells investors to pull money out of the UK: Veteran Conservative MP and leading pro-Brexit campaigner John Redwood wrote a column for the Financial Times at the beginning of November telling readers to "look further afield" than Britain. Redwood has a second job as chief global strategist for Charles Stanley, for which he earns £180,000 a year, and is notorious for his lengthy opposition to Britain's membership of the European Union. The article was publicised after a Forbes columnist, France Coppola, launched a withering attack on Redwood, writing he had "advocated a course of action by the UK government that he knows would seriously damage the UK economy," in supporting "hard" Brexit. Coppola wrote: "To protect his job as an investment manager, he warned his wealthy clients to get their money out before the disaster hits. To me, this smacks of disaster capitalism. Engineer a crash while ensuring your own interests are protected, then clean up when it hits. "This is despicable behaviour by a lawmaker. The Rt. Hon. John Redwood MP is putting his own interests above those he represents. He is unfit to hold office. He should resign." You have no evidence about the wishes of the majority of people have regarding GM produced food. Any GM produced food, would be clearly labelled and the consumer would have a choice like they do now regarding organic food. Why the GM strawman? I never mentioned GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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