The Consequences of Brexit [part 4]

[ENG601PM]

And then Brexit happened,so these are saying that applications have fallen and are putting it down to that.

 

If so, it will be a great help to the pressure on increasing school numbers, but I'm not convinced that either the maths or a single year 3% reduction in applications gives any cause for concern. Even these expensively generated pixels are being wasted.

[Cyclone]

The fact that GDP is going to drop by a greater % than numbers wanting to go to school would suggest that in the long term it won't be a great help, indeed the opposite.

Immigrants contribute to the economy more than they cost the country.

So it's government policy that restricts school places, funding. Not an increase in numbers.

Numbers will fall, but funding will fall further, so the situation will get worse.

[ENG601PM]

The fact that GDP is going to drop by a greater % than numbers wanting to go to school would suggest that in the long term it won't be a great help, indeed the opposite.

Immigrants contribute to the economy more than they cost the country.

So it's government policy that restricts school places, funding. Not an increase in numbers.

Numbers will fall, but funding will fall further, so the situation will get worse.

 

There's a lot of assumptions and misunderstandings there. Let's break it down Cyclone stylee.

 

The fact that GDP is going to drop by a greater % than numbers wanting to go to school would suggest that in the long term it won't be a great help, indeed the opposite.

That's dyscalculic at first sight, but even looking at what you seem to be implying you can't possibly know.

 

Immigrants contribute to the economy more than they cost the country.

Even experts who write reports on that topic can't even agree but the consensus seems to be even stevens, depending on what groups you include or exclude. But if you take fee paying students out of the immigration figures your claim is in serious trouble.

 

Shall we agree that students shouldn't be in the immigration figures in the first place? I expect not.

 

Numbers will fall, but funding will fall further, so the situation will get worse.

Here's the thing, productive single immigrants partner up and have kids and use schools and services and y'know, lots more stuff than they pay towards. Then they get old and stop working and stop paying in but still need expensive services.

 

Summary of your analysis = complete guesswork interlaced with lack of analysis. D-

 

As I say, I have no particular axe to grond on immigration, but I won't put up with dodgy facts and ill thought through concepts just because they happen to support some particular prejudice for or against.

[I1L2T3]

You don't think it's at all obvious to believe death threats to be wrong.

 

Weird, and dangerous, but ISTR that you were overjoyed at the thought of Brexiters dropping dead so I suppose it's to type.

 

Not to some people no. And given the context of the threats, and if the threats are effective, then Brexiters could profit from them.

 

There wasn’t exactly a queue of Brexit leaders queuing up to condemn the threats, and it took prompting for posters on here to condemn the threats.

 

Facts mate

 

And no I’m not overjoyed at people dying. Stop the personal attacks.

[apelike]

There wasn’t exactly a queue of Brexit leaders queuing up to condemn the threats, and it took prompting for posters on here to condemn the threats.

 

Why do you think it necessary for posters on SF to condemn death threats on here just to satisfy you when it is pretty obvious to believe death threats to be wrong, as ENG601PM rightly pointed out.

[Car Boot]

The Electoral Commission has fined the Liberal Democrats party (which campaigned for the UK to remain in the EU during the referendum campaign) £18,000 for failing to submit a complete and accurate spending return.

 

The Remainer political party did not provide acceptable invoices or receipts for 80 payments that it received, which had a total value of more than £80,000. In many cases no invoices or receipts were provided at all.

[ENG601PM]

Not to some people no. And given the context of the threats, and if the threats are effective, then Brexiters could profit from them.

 

There wasn’t exactly a queue of Brexit leaders queuing up to condemn the threats, and it took prompting for posters on here to condemn the threats.

 

Facts mate

 

And no I’m not overjoyed at people dying. Stop the personal attacks.

 

Were you in the queue of people condemning the death threats that caused Nigel Farage to resign the UKIP leadership?

 

Those threats were very effective.

 

Facts, mate

[Magilla]

The Electoral Commission has fined the Liberal Democrats party (which campaigned for the UK to remain in the EU during the referendum campaign) £18,000 for failing to submit a complete and accurate spending return.

 

The Remainer political party did not provide acceptable invoices or receipts for 80 payments that it received, which had a total value of more than £80,000. In many cases no invoices or receipts were provided at all.

 

Amateurs compared to Vote Leave.

 

UK elections watchdog to investigate Vote Leave’s campaign funding:-

https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-election-watchdog-investigates-vote-leaves-campaign-funding/

 

The Vote Leave campaign will be investigated for attempting to circumvent spending limits: It gave £625,000 to student activist Darren Grimes, and £100,000 to the Euroskeptic group Veterans for Britain, days before the referendum. Grimes and Veterans for Britain will also be investigated.

 

Bob Posner, the commission’s director of political finance and regulation, said these questions risk “causing harm to voters’ confidence in the referendum.”

 

Who paid for the leave vote?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/28/paid-leave-vote-funding-brexit-public-inquiry

[Car Boot]

Exactly what workers rights have been stripped and when did that happen?

 

No workers rights have been stripped.

 

This has not happened.

 

The government will convert EU regulations into domestic law, to ensure continuity of operation and a smooth transition to the UK becoming a sovereign and independent country once again.

 

Parliamentary legislation to transpose EU law onto the UK statute book when Brexit happens will ensure that employment rights are not eroded.

[nikki-red]

If you cant discuss the subject without bickering and making personal comments then please refrain from posting.

 

Thank you.