ez8004 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 No workers rights have been stripped. This has not happened. The government will convert EU regulations into domestic law, to ensure continuity of operation and a smooth transition to the UK becoming a sovereign and independent country once again. Parliamentary legislation to transpose EU law onto the UK statute book when Brexit happens will ensure that employment rights are not eroded. How naive or ignorant are you? The PM have repeatedly refused to confirm that even the most simple of workers’ rights such as the EU working time directive will be safely transposed to UK law. If she can’t even do that, what is considered safe? https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2017/dec/18/theresa-may-brexit-statement-commons-eu-summit-way-barnier-says-uk-will-not-be-allowed-bespoke-brexit-trade-deal-politics-live https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/dec/18/brexiteers-paid-holidays-millions-britons-eu-working-time-directive-rights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Car Boot Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 (edited) How naive or ignorant are you? The PM have repeatedly refused to confirm that even the most simple of workers’ rights such as the EU working time directive will be safely transposed to UK law. If she can’t even do that, what is considered safe? The Prime Minister has put the following on record, in a direct response to questions regarding the EU Working Time Directive: "Under the EU withdrawal bill we are bringing these rights into UK law. I have said that we will maintain workers’ rights, and indeed enhance workers’ rights." The Working Time Directive is to be enshrined in UK law. ---------- Post added 19-12-2017 at 20:37 ---------- A sovereign Parliament and the democratic right to vote against our government and political representatives at election time is what truly protects workers rights here in the UK. Unelected Brussels bureaucrats and EU Commissioners, loyal only to the corrupt bosses union that pays for their lavish lifestyle's, do not protect our workers. We cannot sack them. They have no respect for, or commitment to, democracy. Edited December 19, 2017 by Car Boot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Amateurs compared to Vote Leave. UK elections watchdog to investigate Vote Leave’s campaign funding:- https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-election-watchdog-investigates-vote-leaves-campaign-funding/ Who paid for the leave vote? https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/28/paid-leave-vote-funding-brexit-public-inquiry What noone mentions however is that the Remain camp had an expensive lead start. Over £1M was given to the Stronger In Europe campaign from 2 US banks before the declaration of donations came into effect. Cameron's government also spent over £9M of taxpayers money leafleting all households recommending staying in the EU. Given all that extra money and advantage any investigation into the £725,000 overspend is peanuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalga Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 The Prime Minister has put the following on record, in a direct response to questions regarding the EU Working Time Directive: "Under the EU withdrawal bill we are bringing these rights into UK law. I have said that we will maintain workers’ rights, and indeed enhance workers’ rights." The Working Time Directive is to be enshrined in UK law. ---------- Post added 19-12-2017 at 20:37 ---------- A sovereign Parliament and the democratic right to vote against our government and political representatives at election time is what truly protects workers rights here in the UK. Unelected Brussels bureaucrats and EU Commissioners, loyal only to the corrupt bosses union that pays for their lavish lifestyle's, do not protect our workers. We cannot sack them. They have no respect for, or commitment to, democracy. Well if the UK are maintaining workers rights and bringing EU rights into UK law,it must mean that those EU rights are continuing to give the same protection outside the EU as inside,therefore, they are the same laws that corrupt Brussels bureaucrats and EU commissioners have brought in,so if they do not protect workers inside the EU,they don't outside either........which is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Unelected Brussels bureaucrats and EU Commissioners, loyal only to the corrupt bosses union that pays for their lavish lifestyle's, do not protect our workers. We cannot sack them. They have no respect for, or commitment to, democracy. Just to add.. A report was also commissioned by the EU into the effects of too much bureaucratic red-tape surrounding some rights and also H&S legislation, cant remember the Lord who undertook it though. IIFC the conclusion was that legislation needed relaxing as it was restricting companies and especially small businesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENG601PM Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 How naive or ignorant are you? The PM have repeatedly refused to confirm that even the most simple of workers’ rights such as the EU working time directive will be safely transposed to UK law. If she can’t even do that, what is considered safe? https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2017/dec/18/theresa-may-brexit-statement-commons-eu-summit-way-barnier-says-uk-will-not-be-allowed-bespoke-brexit-trade-deal-politics-live https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/dec/18/brexiteers-paid-holidays-millions-britons-eu-working-time-directive-rights The UK has been THE world leader in human rights for a thousand years. From Magna Carta through the abolition of slavery to creating the European Convention of Human Rights. How anyone thinks that Theresa May suddenly has the gumption, never mind the wherewithal or political backing to remove human rights from UK citizens and voters is utterly baffling. It's the ultimate strawman argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Were you in the queue of people condemning the death threats that caused Nigel Farage to resign the UKIP leadership? Those threats were very effective. Facts, mate I actually very strongly supported the importance of UKIP being given a democratic voice, when other left wingers wanted to shut them down and freeze them out of the media. It’s all there in my posting history if you want to check. You are very seriously barking up the wrong tree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Well if the UK are maintaining workers rights and bringing EU rights into UK law,it must mean that those EU rights are continuing to give the same protection outside the EU as inside... Not necessarily as a good deal of those EU workers rights actually originated from the UK in the first place and were adopted by the EU. In fact a great deal of consumer rights, H&S legislation, and many others also originated from here as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzijlstra Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 The UK has been THE world leader in human rights for a thousand years. From Magna Carta through the abolition of slavery to creating the European Convention of Human Rights. How anyone thinks that Theresa May suddenly has the gumption, never mind the wherewithal or political backing to remove human rights from UK citizens and voters is utterly baffling. It's the ultimate strawman argument. Don't make me laugh. You are at the forefront of abolishing the ECHR and put it front right and central in the Leave campaign by condemning the European Court of Human Rights. Oh hang on???? Posts like this confirm that British voters haven't got a clue what working conditions are like elsewhere in Europe, proclaiming to have invented the holy grail and ignoring the fact that the rest of the bible was written somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Car Boot Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Well if the UK are maintaining workers rights and bringing EU rights into UK law,it must mean that those EU rights are continuing to give the same protection outside the EU as inside,therefore, they are the same laws that corrupt Brussels bureaucrats and EU commissioners have brought in,so if they do not protect workers inside the EU,they don't outside either........which is it? EU 'directives' have little impact on workers’ terms and conditions, and do not protect union rights. The EU deliberately does not have any unfair dismissal 'directives', and it does not want a minimum wage in any of the member states. If workers’ rights clash with the sacrosanct 'four freedoms' the EU always supports the bosses’ and not the workers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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