The Consequences of Brexit [part 4]

[Magilla]

Remarkable.

 

Oh... didn't you like the glove joke. Sad face

 

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IMF downgrades UK growth forecast on Brexit uncertainty:-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42424700

 

Note the response to the "false doom and gloom claims":-

The numbers that we are seeing the economy deliver today are actually proving the point we made a year and a half ago when people said, you are too gloomy

We were not too gloomy, we were pretty much on the mark, I mean within 0.1% or so - our forecast actually turned out to be the reality of the economy.

 

Project fear?

[Car Boot]

The EU was designed by free-market fanatics from the beginning to be a state intervention-free zone. It has NO democratic legitimacy.

 

The EU has been deliberately created so that democratic power could be handed over to remote, unelected bureaucrats. These unnacountable bureaucrats have then given big business and powerful corporations free rein without any of the checks and balances that democratically elected governments might impose.

 

There is nothing 'progressive' about an EU which removes democracy and self-government from its members states in order to serve primarily the interests of the haves, and not the have-nots.

[Magilla]

The EU was designed .....

 

I think we've heard that one before

[Cyclone]

The idea that the EU is in favour of big business, when compared to the tories as the alternative is ludicrous. To the point that you have to wonder if Car Boot even believes what he's saying.

[Car Boot]

Almost 3.5 million UK household's have cancelled their BBC TV licence fee in the last four years. This is partly due to the rise of Amazon Prime and Netflix but also because people are becoming increasingly aware that an out of touch wealthy metropolitan elite are running the BBC.

 

This wealthy BBC elite fanatically supports mass immigration and our membership of the EU.

 

Perhaps a consequence of Brexit might be when we finally leave the EU for the BBC to be relocated to Brussels? It's the BEEB's natural home.

 

We could stop being forced to pay for the unremitting EU propaganda being pumped out by the BBC, and the BBC could stop persecuting poor people in this country.

[tinfoilhat]

The EU is inherently anti-democratic, pro-capitalist and free-market. FACT.

 

The impact of UK membership of the EU on the working class has been devastating and includes the decimation of well paid manufacturing jobs, a perennial trade deficit and an influx of cheap migrant labour which has destroyed job security and reduced wage levels.

 

There has also been a massive sense of loss of democratic control over our lives, and the widespread feeling that our UK parliament is ineffective at best or simply a puppet of Brussels at worst.

 

Die hard Remainer TUC general secretary Frances O’Grady has claimed, “It’s the EU that guarantees workers paid holidays, parental leave and equal treatment of part-timers.” Absolute rubbish and easily disproved pro-EU propaganda.

 

In reality, it was the people and the unions that demanded that a sovereign UK Parliament enact legislation (nearly always far stronger than the weak regulations put timidly in place by the EU) to protect workers employment rights and health and safety at work.

 

Ill ask again (dont expect an answer - I never do) why is it only us thats cottoned on? Are the rest of europe stupid?

[ez8004]

The EU is inherently anti-democratic, pro-capitalist and free-market. FACT.

 

The impact of UK membership of the EU on the working class has been devastating and includes the decimation of well paid manufacturing jobs, a perennial trade deficit and an influx of cheap migrant labour which has destroyed job security and reduced wage levels.

 

There has also been a massive sense of loss of democratic control over our lives, and the widespread feeling that our UK parliament is ineffective at best or simply a puppet of Brussels at worst.

 

Die hard Remainer TUC general secretary Frances O’Grady has claimed, “It’s the EU that guarantees workers paid holidays, parental leave and equal treatment of part-timers.” Absolute rubbish and easily disproved pro-EU propaganda.

 

In reality, it was the people and the unions that demanded that a sovereign UK Parliament enact legislation (nearly always far stronger than the weak regulations put timidly in place by the EU) to protect workers employment rights and health and safety at work.

 

What?

 

The reason our manufacturing jobs have been decimated is not because of the EU. The more fundamental reason is that they were not competitive on a global scale. Why were German and France manufacturing industries able to thrive? We all play by the same rules, no?

 

The steel industry for example deserves the kicking it has been getting because the workers have repeatedly refused to adapt and modernise. The companies underinvesting is also a huge issue over the years. It’s not the EU fault here is it?

[I1L2T3]

What?

 

The reason our manufacturing jobs have been decimated is not because of the EU. The more fundamental reason is that they were not competitive on a global scale. Why were German and France manufacturing industries able to thrive? We all play by the same rules, no?

 

The steel industry for example deserves the kicking it has been getting because the workers have repeatedly refused to adapt and modernise. The companies underinvesting is also a huge issue over the years. It’s not the EU fault here is it?

 

Anybody who knows people alive in the 60s then ask them what happened when Japanese imports hit the shops. Cars, motorbikes and everything else - the British public started turning their backs on British made goods. This was way before we joined the EEC.

[chalga]

The EU is inherently anti-democratic, pro-capitalist and free-market. FACT.

 

The impact of UK membership of the EU on the working class has been devastating and includes the decimation of well paid manufacturing jobs, a perennial trade deficit and an influx of cheap migrant labour which has destroyed job security and reduced wage levels.

 

There has also been a massive sense of loss of democratic control over our lives, and the widespread feeling that our UK parliament is ineffective at best or simply a puppet of Brussels at worst.

 

Die hard Remainer TUC general secretary Frances O’Grady has claimed, “It’s the EU that guarantees workers paid holidays, parental leave and equal treatment of part-timers.” Absolute rubbish and easily disproved pro-EU propaganda.

 

In reality, it was the people and the unions that demanded that a sovereign UK Parliament enact legislation (nearly always far stronger than the weak regulations put timidly in place by the EU) to protect workers employment rights and health and safety at work.

 

When the EU don't make rules and regulations,it's their fault for not making them,or not making them stronger,when the EU does make rules and regulations,they take away sovreignity,and devastate jobs..........another example of double standards posting and the poster.

 

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The EU was designed by free-market fanatics from the beginning to be a state intervention-free zone. It has NO democratic legitimacy.

 

The EU has been deliberately created so that democratic power could be handed over to remote, unelected bureaucrats. These unnacountable bureaucrats have then given big business and powerful corporations free rein without any of the checks and balances that democratically elected governments might impose.

 

There is nothing 'progressive' about an EU which removes democracy and self-government from its members states in order to serve primarily the interests of the haves, and not the have-nots.

 

The EU don't remove it,individual member countries governments agree with each other to do stuff,then they sign up to it..........nothing is stopping any of them from leaving the EU,or ever has done.

Edited December 20, 2017 by chalga

[Flexo]

The impact of UK membership of the EU on the working class has been devastating and includes the decimation of well paid manufacturing jobs

 

The alternative on offer from these hardcore Brexit people will be "out of the frying pan, into the fire"!

 

Protections for workers, such as the EU Working Time Directive and paid holidays will go on the bonfire of regulations.

 

The Brexit economist, Patrick Minford, reports that his plans will "mostly eliminate manufacturing" in the UK. Any deviation from his plans or suggestion that they should be discussed in Parliament and the hardcore Brexit people start shouting about "traitors".