apelike Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 ... David Cameron arranged that UK would be made explicitly exempt from text in treaties that refer to ever closer union: Craftily worded as the exemption is only in the text, closer political Union which hinges on what that exactly means. It can still happen in a sense just like you have put by calling it a closer union instead. It also follows that when this is revised by the EU it also has to undergo a majority vote by the Member States for it to be carried. Cameron got nowhere near what he wanted from his negotiations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 This has got to be one of the funniest days yet. The government report that DD denied ever existed surfaces in the public domain. Government spends all day publicly destroying its own report. Completely shambolic. ---------- Post added 30-01-2018 at 14:18 ---------- Craftily worded as the exemption is only in the text, closer political Union which hinges on what that exactly means. It can still happen in a sense just like you have put by calling it a closer union instead. It also follows that when this is revised by the EU it also has to undergo a majority vote by the Member States for it to be carried. Cameron got nowhere near what he wanted from his negotiations. Actually he got a decent deal. Obviously he was destroyed for it because to the right wing of his party nothing less than exiting the EU was ever going to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Fake news .... If its fake news why is it being talked about and played down in government? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42867668 wouldnt they just say its fake news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Fake news .... You wish ---------- Post added 30-01-2018 at 15:38 ---------- Actually he got a decent deal. I thought so to, under the circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 ---------- Post added 30-01-2018 at 14:18 ---------- Actually he got a decent deal. Depends on what you class as a decent. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35622105 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 A "soft Brexit" would be utterly pointless, in fact it would be less desirable than if the referendum had not happened at all; in effect still in the EU but having no say on stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 A "soft Brexit" would be utterly pointless, in fact it would be less desirable than if the referendum had not happened at all; in effect still in the EU but having no say on stuff. According to a lot of people on here we have(had) no say anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 A "soft Brexit" would be utterly pointless, in fact it would be less desirable than if the referendum had not happened at all; in effect still in the EU but having no say on stuff. i know its gonna be great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Depends on what you class as a decent. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35622105 He got agreement on provisions that would put a brake on his migration, and a binding agreement around opting out of ever closer union. It doesn’t matter anyway. Any deal was going to be considered a bad deal. ---------- Post added 30-01-2018 at 19:12 ---------- A "soft Brexit" would be utterly pointless, in fact it would be less desirable than if the referendum had not happened at all; in effect still in the EU but having no say on stuff. Indeed, and when we get to reverse this folly it’ll be easier to re-join. Forget A50, we’ll all be talking about A49 soon enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ez8004 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Anyone who calls this fake news doesn’t know what such a thing is and therefore clueless on the whole matter. The report in question that assess the UK economy’s impact on Brexit was created by the Treasury. You know, that little known government department that controls the country’s finances. Nothing important obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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