I1L2T3 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 You are a loser get over it, "This is your decision. The Government will implement what you decide." The majority of voters decided to leave. If you don't like it you're free to go to the EU, why haven't you? https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/517014/EU_referendum_leaflet_large_print.pdf Blimey, you can’t help it with the goading can you. What does the government will implement what you decide mean in the context of the referendum question in a non-legally binding advisory referendum won by an unconvincing majority. Especially now that government has been dissolved and we have a new one without a mandate? No future government had any compulsion to implement anything. In fact a future government could reverse the process easily using article 49. ---------- Post added 01-03-2018 at 16:25 ---------- Yes it is. What was not democracy was denying the electorate a vote as to whether they wanted to join the then EEC in the first place, or later as to whether we should sign the Maastricht treaty. Both were done with just the approval of parliament and in the parliamentary debates on joining the EEC (1971/1972) it was only passed by a slim majority. First reading 356-244 - majority in favour 112 Second reading 309-301 - majority in favour 8 Third reading 301-284 - majority in favour 17 ---------- Post added 01-03-2018 at 16:03 ---------- Consistent? The latest poll in 2015 show a 1% margin for unification and one of the reasons I stated: "Lets wait for another poll asking if they want N.Ireland to join them as that will give a fairer outlook." So not clutching at straws just being fair. One thing you need to understand is that governing via referenda is a bad idea. We need to trust our elected governments to act in our best interests. That is clearly not happening right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Blimey, you can’t help it with the goading can you. What does the government will implement what you decide mean in the context of the referendum question in a non-legally binding advisory referendum won by an unconvincing majority. Especially now that government has been dissolved and we have a new one without a mandate? No future government had any compulsion to implement anything. In fact a future government could reverse the process easily using article 49. ---------- Post added 01-03-2018 at 16:25 ---------- One thing you need to understand is that governing via referenda is a bad idea. We need to trust our elected governments to act in our best interests. That is clearly not happening right now. It means what it says on the tin, the fact you can't understand it or won't accept it is down to your ignorance and whining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Car Boot Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 I checked the leaflet and you are talking crap. It doesn’t say anywhere that a vote for leave would definitely result in us leaving. It warns about the risks, nothing more. The very expensive Government leaflet sent to every household stated: The EU referendum is a once in a generation decision. It also informed us: This is your decision. The Government will implement what you decide. A vote to Leave the EU explicitly means that we will definitely be leaving the EU. Please respect the democratic outcome of the vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 It means what it says on the tin, the fact you can't understand it or won't accept it is down to your ignorance and whining. It doesn’t mean anything concrete given the context of the referendum question and the advisory nature of the referendum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 The full question that resulted in those answers was "There are a number of possible options for the constitutional status of Northern Ireland. In the short to medium term, do you think Northern Ireland should...". So only specifically focused on the short to medium term and before the brexit referendum. When the same poll asked the question "Thinking of the long-term policy for Northern Ireland, would you like to see a united Ireland in your lifetime?", 66% wanted an united Ireland and only 14% didn't. Now look further down on that at the other question posed at the time, that on the influence of tax to support a united Ireland. Now you will see how it changes dramatically with 31% in favour but now 44% against, showing just how different the answer can be by just changing the question. The big problem with believing polls is as retp rightly pointed out that the answers can be skewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 The very expensive Government leaflet sent to every household stated: The EU referendum is a once in a generation decision. It also informed us: This is your decision. The Government will implement what you decide. A vote to Leave the EU explicitly means that we will definitely be leaving the EU. Please respect the democratic outcome of the vote. Is this the government where the person who made that promise resigned the very next day.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Car Boot Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 In a few months it’s going to be impossible to make it as the full scale of the catastrophe unfolds. Didn't you say exactly the same thing in June 2016? Embrace Independence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 It doesn’t mean anything concrete given the context of the referendum question and the advisory nature of the referendum. It seems the only concrete thing is your napper:hihi: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 It seems the only concrete thing is your napper:hihi: Racist term https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=napper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 In fact a future government could reverse the process easily using article 49. Please read A49 as it is about joining the EU and has nothing at all to do with reversing a constitutional held decision to leave. http://www.lisbon-treaty.org/wcm/the-lisbon-treaty/treaty-on-european-union-and-comments/title-6-final-provisions/136-article-49.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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