Lockdoctor Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 You’re right not everybody was conned into it. The majority stand by their decision. That is why they need to suffer the consequences. Toyota workers in Derbyshire are not complaining and people in the Goole area are happy about Siemens plans for a new train factory. However, I did hear one our fellow remain voters on the radio saying our trains should be built by British firms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 In the brave new dystopia of brexit, apostrophes will be mandatory. We will be returning to the 1950s in everything but spelling and grammar ---------- Post added 03-03-2018 at 09:38 ---------- Decisions about what though? The more regulatory compliance we maintain, however we decide to maintain it, the less decisions we will have to make. On the other hand, the less regulatory compliance we maintain the harder and more expensive trading with the EU will be. Even the mythical trade deals will mean giving up decision making in some areas. Fish don't understand borders so there will still need to be cooperation in regard to managing fish stocks. Unless you are advocating mass nationalisation foreign owned companies will still be foreign owned and the profits will still be repatriated. Do you think the UK incapable of making it's own decisions? No but fishermen do and the current EU managing of fish stocks seems to be going awry. That is something our government should address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyofborg Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Do you think the UK incapable of making it's own decisions? no, but the benefits of shared decision making should be obvious [/Quote] That is something our government should address. why? and how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzijlstra Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Do you think the UK incapable of making it's own decisions? No but fishermen do and the current EU managing of fish stocks seems to be going awry. That is something our government should address. Perhaps it is something it should address on a grander scale than national. Fish have this weird habit of swimming from one place to another, I know, lunacy. Again - what is this obsession with fishery? We're talking about a market worth less than a billion in 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Perhaps it is something it should address on a grander scale than national. Fish have this weird habit of swimming from one place to another, I know, lunacy. Again - what is this obsession with fishery? We're talking about a market worth less than a billion in 2017. Bendy bananas will be brought up next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Perhaps it is something it should address on a grander scale than national. Fish have this weird habit of swimming from one place to another, I know, lunacy. Again - what is this obsession with fishery? We're talking about a market worth less than a billion in 2017. Strange then how the EU want to fish so desperately in UK waters. How much in the future those less than a billions soon add up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 no, but the benefits of shared decision making should be obvious It should be obvious that getting agreement on something and a decision made between 27 different member states, many with their separate perspectives, interests and circumstances, is all too often a slow lumbering process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Car Boot Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 You’re right not everybody was conned into it. The majority stand by their decision. That is why they need to suffer the consequences. The disadvantaged and vulnerable have been suffering the costs of our EU membership for over 40 years. They'll suffer even more when CETA is enforced, and it will still apply to us even after we leave. No MPs or MEPs were allowed to take part in the talks, which took place in secret, and no one was granted access to the text of the CETA agreement until it was too late. The EU doesn't like democracy. The EU is using CETA to further empower big business and reduce basic rights for EU citizens. Smash the EU - by any means necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altus Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Strange then how the EU want to fish so desperately in UK waters. Not as strange as the brexit supporting UK fishing industry desperately wanting to stay in the EU customs union. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Not as strange as the brexit supporting UK fishing industry desperately wanting to stay in the EU customs union. Flag of convenience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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