The Consequences of Brexit [part 4]

[RJRB]

I certainly did not want a referendum.

I did not vote Tory but once they were elected I expected them to govern and not to abdicate responsibility.

I should have known better at my age.

[Car Boot]

If you didn't object to the 2016 vote being a once in a generation decision then you have no right to call for another vote.

 

How about we all respect the referendum result and get on with our lives? It can't be healthy being unable to get past the 23 June 2016.

[Top Cats Hat]

Ryanair is threatening to ground its planes to persuade voters to “rethink” Brexit.

 

If there's a 'no deal' Brexit, nobody will be flying anywhere other than within the UK.

 

And before people say that our good friend Trump will let us fly to America, we won't be able to do that either. Once we drop out of the European Air Safety Agency, UK registered planes will not be legally allowed to fly in any airspace other than the UK's.

[iansheff]

That's a ludicrous thing to say. A second referendum would cost millions at the very worst. Brexit has already cost the UK economy 30 billion and counting and no one knows how bad the eventual economic damage will be. It is a huge decision that is being made without the backing of the majority of the population so there is an absolutely democratic imperative for the process to be reviewed.

 

Well maybe the vote should have been made compulsory, then the result would have shown what the majority of the population wanted. Who knows what the result would have been then.

[truman]

If you didn't object to the 2016 vote being a once in a generation decision then you have no right to call for another vote.

 

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There was no mechanism for objecting.........

[apelike]

well that government no longer exists, and as we all know the referendum was not legally binding. So the current government cannot be bound by whatever promises Mr Cameron may have made in leaflets his previous government printed.

 

But.. although it was not legally binding there has been no change in government politically as its still conservative, it has just a changed its prime minister and cabinet. This government is just carrying out the decision of the referendum as promised in the referendum leaflet.

Edited March 6, 2018 by apelike

[RJRB]

If you didn't object to the 2016 vote being a once in a generation decision then you have no right to call for another vote.

 

How about we all respect the referendum result and get on with our lives? It can't be healthy being unable to get past the 23 June 2016.

 

Perfectly Healthy.

It keeps the brain ticking over.

[apelike]

Once we drop out of the European Air Safety Agency, UK registered planes will not be legally allowed to fly in any airspace other than the UK's.

 

So how come the many other countries airlines outside the EU that fly to the EU or over EU countries are allowed to fly, are they also members of the EASA?

Edited March 6, 2018 by apelike

[iansheff]

If there's a 'no deal' Brexit, nobody will be flying anywhere other than within the UK.

 

And before people say that our good friend Trump will let us fly to America, we won't be able to do that either. Once we drop out of the European Air Safety Agency, UK registered planes will not be legally allowed to fly in any airspace other than the UK's.

 

Like that will happen, as apelike says what about all the other countries that fly to European countries, it was just scaremongering from the people that were pushing for people to vote remain. Both sides lied, neither knew for a fact what would happen.

[Top Cats Hat]

Well maybe the vote should have been made compulsory, then the result would have shown what the majority of the population wanted. Who knows what the result would have been then.

 

Most likely a healthy vote to remain. Most studies of those who didn't/couldn't vote put them in the remain camp and that is before you factor in the under 16's as in the Scottish independence referendum.

 

I remember someone saying at the time that it is easy to stir people up to vote against something. Much harder to stir people to to enthuse about something which is rightly or wrongly not massively loved, even by remainers.

 

I certainly have no love for the EU but it has largely been a force for good and in 2016 it made no economic sense whatever way you looked at it for the UK to withdraw.

 

In fact going back to your initial point, I would go further than a compulsory vote and have made the result compulsory but only as long as there was a quadruple lock on the result, ie. it would have to have produced a simple majority in ALL FOUR constituents of the United Kingdom.

 

Despite Brexiteers screaming and shouting 'we won the vote!' and 'respect the will of the people!', the WHOLE of the United Kingdom is being dragged into this madness by a slender majority made up of English and a handful of Welsh votes.