melthebell Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 and fully implement the outcome of the June 2016 vote. you sure on that? you still could be slightly disappointed yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Car Boot Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Hilarious, one of the closest run votes ever and you think that's a large mandate. Perhaps you may care to explain when people in British Electoral history have ever voted for something or someone in bigger numbers than when they voted to leave the EU in June 2016? Biggest mandate in history, my friend. And thats a FACT. Now please respect the democratic outcome of the vote and let's all work together to make Leave the big success it fully deserves to be. ---------- Post added 14-03-2018 at 23:10 ---------- you sure on that? you still could be slightly disappointed yet I agree. The forces at work opposing any sort of Brexit are formidable. The global bankers, big business and the establishment elite all oppose the democratic will of the people and will do anything to ensure we remain in the EU rich mans club. I stood with the poorest in our unequal, divided society against the might of the wealthy establishment figures that demanded we vote Remain or face pestilence, famine and war. The poorest refused to be cowed and delivered a huge democratic blow to the elite. But I'm under no illusions. The people who have profited greatly from our EU membership at the expense of the poorest do not give up so easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRB Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Perhaps you may care to explain when people in British Electoral history have ever voted for something or someone in bigger numbers than when they voted to leave the EU in June 2016? Biggest mandate in history, my friend. And thats a FACT. Now please respect the democratic outcome of the vote and let's all work together to make Leave the big success it fully deserves to be. ---------- Post added 14-03-2018 at 23:10 ---------- I agree. The forces at work opposing any sort of Brexit are formidable. The global bankers, big business and the establishment elite all oppose the democratic will of the people and will do anything to ensure we remain in the EU rich mans club. I stood with the poorest in our unequal, divided society against the might of the wealthy establishment figures that demanded we vote Remain or face pestilence, famine and war. The poorest refused to be cowed and delivered a huge democratic blow to the elite. But I'm under no illusions. The people who have profited greatly from our EU membership at the expense of the poorest do not give up so easily. It’s worse than you think.What about the many working class and unemployed who also think that they might have more chance of a job within the EU. Whenever I see “FACT” writ large it's like a challenge. How would you define the biggest mandate. Would it be say a record turnout of say 50 million wth the vote split 51/49,or a lower turnout of 40 million with a 60/40 split. I would have thought the difference between the votes had a greater bearing than the total votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Perhaps you may care to explain when people in British Electoral history have ever voted for something or someone in bigger numbers than when they voted to leave the EU in June 2016? Biggest mandate in history, my friend. And thats a FACT. I'll repeat again, a small, tiny even, majority and you think that's a strong mandate. You've taken leave of your senses. 100 out of 100 is a huge mandate for something, 51 out of 100 is no mandate at all. Add as many zero's to the numbers as you like, but you've got the 51 scenario here. The overall size of the vote is irrelevant. ---------- Post added 15-03-2018 at 07:22 ---------- There could be a change of mind. But not until after we have left the EU. We must respect the democratic choice of the people and fully implement the decision of the June 2016 vote. Just as the June '75 decision was fully implemented. Unless we have a 2018 vote and that reverses the 2016 vote. Then we can simply respect the most recent vote obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I agree. The forces at work opposing any sort of Brexit are formidable. The global bankers, big business and the establishment elite all oppose the democratic will of the people and will do anything to ensure we remain in the EU rich mans club. I stood with the poorest in our unequal, divided society against the might of the wealthy establishment figures that demanded we vote Remain or face pestilence, famine and war. The poorest refused to be cowed and delivered a huge democratic blow to the elite. But I'm under no illusions. The people who have profited greatly from our EU membership at the expense of the poorest do not give up so easily. Nice try, but what i actually meant, its unworkable in its hardest sense that you and your ilk want, take NI, its far too complex than just leave bugger the consequences Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litotes Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 But not until after we have left the EU. We must respect the democratic choice of the people and fully implement the decision of the June 2016 vote. Just as the June '75 decision was fully implemented. Why? If the mandate has changed, then we should respect the mandate shouldn't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Car Boot Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Why? If the mandate has changed, then we should respect the mandate shouldn't we? The June 1975 mandate was respected in full, and the will of the people carried out for 41 years. The June 2016 mandate deserves at the very least the same amount of respect as was given in 1975, and the will of the people must be delivered in full. Lets all work together to ensure a successful exit from the out of touch EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 The June 1975 mandate was respected in full, and the will of the people carried out for 41 years. The June 2016 mandate deserves at the very least the same amount of respect as was given in 1975, and the will of the people must be delivered in full. Lets all work together to ensure a successful exit from the out of touch EU. This has shown the country is divided more than ever, theres never gonna be any working together, its completely politically divided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Car Boot Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 This has shown the country is divided more than ever, theres never gonna be any working together, its completely politically divided. I am in agreement with you. 41 years of EU membership has divided the country both economically and politically. The haves and the have-nots. The rich and the powerful, the poor and the powerless. Curse the EU. It is a stain upon humanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I am in agreement with you. 41 years of EU membership has divided the country both economically and politically. The haves and the have-nots. The rich and the powerful, the poor and the powerless. Curse the EU. It is a stain upon humanity. hahaha nice twist, we've had the haves and the halve nots since the dawn of man, do you not know what lords and kings and queens do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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