Litotes Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 I've just voted on a UK Government petition to give the electorate a referendum on the abolition of the House of Lords. 'The House of Lords is a place of patronage where unelected and unaccountable individuals hold a disproportionate amount of influence and power which can be used to frustrate the elected representatives of the people'. 110,235 signatures so far! So you propose that petitions are the way to go for public opinion and yet didn't you reject the publicly backed petition for a second referendum? Strange how leavers believe in democracy when it only works in their favour... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 More Brexit Good News The Office for National Statistics (ONS) has today released data concerning the public sector finances, UK, March 2018: https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/governmentpublicsectorandtaxes/publicsectorfinance/bulletins/publicsectorfinances/march2018 'Public sector net borrowing (excluding public sector banks) decreased by £3.5 billion to £42.6 billion in the latest financial year (April 2017 to March 2018 ), compared with the previous financial year; this is the lowest net borrowing since the financial year ending March 2007'. Britain’s budget deficit has now dropped to the lowest level since BEFORE the financial crisis. The lowest level for 11 years in fact. This is despite the June 2016 Leave vote which was supposed to cause an economic meltdown. But didn't. So you would agree Teresa may is doing a great job running the country then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 But what the givernment is proposing isn't the will of the people. The people did not know what was being proposed when they voted out, the Lords are just saying that the government has got its current proposal wrong and in fact, the Lords are doing what they are ther to do. Givernment I like that. I wonder what can I get from the givernment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 But what the givernment is proposing isn't the will of the people. The people did not know what was being proposed when they voted out, the Lords are just saying that the government has got its current proposal wrong and in fact, the Lords are doing what they are ther to do. Are you saying those who voted couldn't tell the difference between remain and leave, that's a great mind reading trick you have there, have you asked them all if you are right in your assumption. Wonder if the voters can understand how to get out of a building with the word EXIT in front of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANGELFIRE1 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Leaving the EU (leaving the single market, the customs union, ending the free movement of people and the primacy of EU law) is what people voted for in the referendum. The customs union is an essential part of the EU. The EU’s customs union dates from its very inception in 1957, though it was not completed until 1968. British voters gave clear instructions to the political elite that we wish to leave the EU and ALL of it's essential components. We need to negotiate and sign our own trade deals - the EU customs union is a massive barrier to this and will keep us a part of the failing economic and political union. ---------- Post added 24-04-2018 at 18:15 ---------- I've just voted on a UK Government petition to give the electorate a referendum on the abolition of the House of Lords. 'The House of Lords is a place of patronage where unelected and unaccountable individuals hold a disproportionate amount of influence and power which can be used to frustrate the elected representatives of the people'. 110,235 signatures so far! And get paid £300 a day plus subsidised meals and ale just to keep them awake most probably. Angel1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Are you saying those who voted couldn't tell the difference between remain and leave, that's a great mind reading trick you have there, have you asked them all if you are right in your assumption. Wonder if the voters can understand how to get out of a building with the word EXIT in front of them Maybe you can tell us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Maybe you can tell us... Go and fetch the long stand. it's behind the rubber nails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyofborg Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Are you saying those who voted couldn't tell the difference between remain and leave, that's a great mind reading trick you have there, have you asked them all if you are right in your assumption. Wonder if the voters can understand how to get out of a building with the word EXIT in front of them one of the few things most of us agree on is that the campaign as a whole was very poor and consequences like undermining the irish peace process, damaging our place in cross EU supply chains were never properly explored. ---------- Post added 24-04-2018 at 19:30 ---------- Brexit may have given the traitors in the lords something to ponder over. is everyone who disagrees with you a traitor? that sort of language isn't really going to help bring everyone together but maybe you dont want that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Go and fetch the long stand. it's behind the rubber nails. What?............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 one of the few things most of us agree on is that the campaign as a whole was very poor and consequences like undermining the irish peace process, damaging our place in cross EU supply chains were never properly explored. ---------- Post added 24-04-2018 at 19:30 ---------- is everyone who disagrees with you a traitor? that sort of language isn't really going to help bring everyone together but maybe you dont want that The whole process has been poor, foot dragging and complaining by the remoaners isn't helpful, cost's the country more money as they drag it on, losing jobs and industry. Going against the will of the democratic majority for the benefit of aiding a foreign power, what would you call them? ---------- Post added 24-04-2018 at 19:43 ---------- What?............. If you don't know the difference between remain and leave, help is at hand, https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/english Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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