The Consequences of Brexit [part 4]

[melthebell]

i work on the old Orgreave site, it's been regenerated with *some* degree of success, by an ocean current of EU regeneration money, that's been pouring in for over a decade.

 

you equate the EU with Austerity, not from where i'm looking!

dont mention facts to him he doesnt care about facts, the EU is the enemy in his obsession and NOTHING will change that, thats the problem with hardcore brexiteers, far too many decades of sucking up fear, lies and propaganda has screwed up minds

[tinfoilhat]

I'm surprised nobody has picked up on this yet. I'm sure Nigel and Boris and even car boot know a whole bunch of people who can step in and help our farmers.

 

 

European fruit pickers shun Britain http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44230865

[melthebell]

I'm surprised nobody has picked up on this yet. I'm sure Nigel and Boris and even car boot know a whole bunch of people who can step in and help our farmers.

 

 

European fruit pickers shun Britain http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44230865

looks like we'll be passing Romanias economy on the way down

[Car Boot]

You're getting the EU and the tories mixed up again.

 

The EU is unwavering in its commitment to the harsh austerity measures that have been imposed by successive Tory governments. The EU has demanded, or directly imposed, austerity measures on its member states which have in fact been much more extreme than what we here in the UK have experienced.

[Obelix]

Let me guess this is a bleat about Portugal and Greece....?

[Longcol]

The EU is unwavering in its commitment to the harsh austerity measures that have been imposed by successive Tory governments.

 

You are unwavering in blaming the austerity measures chosen by the Tories on the EU.

[Car Boot]

Your whole argument stands or falls on whether we will have a stronger economy.

 

I think you (Brexiters) already lost. That just needs to work it’s way through into the economic and then inevitable political reality.

 

No it doesn't.

 

If a 'stronger' economy as part of the EU means more freedom of movement (and it's intended consequences of ever more fierce competition for low skilled jobs, housing, healthcare, education etc) which leads to many more people in the cities and towns, more population growth, overcrowding, creaking infrastructure and transport systems that weren't designed for such population increases, then a stronger economy benefits mainly the wealthy.

 

The economic benefits of EU membership are massively outweighed by a decline in living standards. This is why so many people voted to Leave.

 

They put their quality of life before a supposedly stronger economy which only really benefits the rich. Freedom of movement damages social cohesion, increases pressure on public services and forces down wages for people on low incomes.

Edited June 6, 2018 by Car Boot

[melthebell]

 

They put their quality of life before a supposedly stronger economy which only really benefits the rich. Freedom of movement damages social cohesion, increases pressure on public services and forces down wages for people on low incomes.

IF our economy suffers YOURS and indeed my quality of life will suffer, the government and businesses get less, taxes go up, jobs and pay go down, welfare will be cut, NHS cut, police cut, anger up, resentment up

 

less jobs, less pay, less dole, less pensions, less healthcare, more taxes

 

you are living in some weird utopian robin hood dream world

[I1L2T3]

No it doesn't.

 

If a 'stronger' economy as part of the EU means more freedom of movement (and it's intended consequences of ever more fierce competition for low skilled jobs, housing, healthcare, education etc) which leads to many more people in the cities and towns, more population growth, overcrowding, creaking infrastructure and transport systems that weren't designed for such population increases, then a stronger economy benefits mainly the wealthy.

 

The economic benefits of EU membership are massively outweighed by a decline in living standards. This is why so many people voted to Leave.

 

They put their quality of life before a supposedly stronger economy which only really benefits the rich. Freedom of movement damages social cohesion, increases pressure on public services and forces down wages for people on low incomes.

 

Yes it absolutely does.

 

The economy is the most important factor, no matter what anybody says.

 

You’ll find this out soon enough, for better or worse.

[Top Cats Hat]

If a 'stronger' economy as part of the EU means more freedom of movement (and it's intended consequences of ever more fierce competition for low skilled jobs, housing, healthcare, education etc) which leads to many more people in the cities and towns, more population growth, overcrowding, creaking infrastructure and transport systems that weren't designed for such population increases, then a stronger economy benefits mainly the wealthy.

 

The economic benefits of EU membership are massively outweighed by a decline in living standards. This is why so many people voted to Leave.

 

Blame the immigrants eh?

 

Maybe pressure on services, housing, education and health is really as a result of living under a system which massively favours the rich and powerful over the workers, unemployed, the poor and the sick.

 

People need to lobby to change that system instead of listening to anti working class elements like you who act in the interests of the rich and powerful by urging people to fight among each other for scraps off the table when they should be demanding a seat at the table.