I1L2T3 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-44568019 The true reason why xenophobia is on the rise is because white working class communities are lazy and lack self motivation compared to migrant ones. Sounds like jealousy and envy when they under achieve in life. I’m not sure that’s fair. I grew up in a deprived area and the feeling through the 70s and 80s was of being under siege. That’s never gone away. Some places have been left to rot. A lot of people in the communities just want a break from that cycle. It’s not surprising that they want change, but that they are not equipped to do it themselves. That is where populists step in to offer the earth and easy change. They’ve been duped but what else was on offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litotes Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Brexit has led to increased funding for the NHS, promised by both major parties. Brexit has led to increased wages and less unemployment. Brexit caused the departures of both Cameron and Osbourne. Brexit is a peoples revolt against the establishment. These things are what's great about Brexit. Brexit hasn't happened yet - so is this your crystal ball working overtime again? The NHS hasn't got any increased funding yet - perhaps yet another lie? The vote to leave caused Cameron to leave, May caused Osborne to leave. Brexit was a vote of ignorance and lies over pragmatism Can we tomorrow's numbers please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Airbus warns no-deal Brexit could see it leave UK https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44570931 The European planemaker said the warning was not part of "project fear, but its "dawning reality". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzijlstra Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Airbus warns no-deal Brexit could see it leave UK https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44570931 This follows prior warnings that manufacturing in the UK will suffer. No doubt this is project fear though, Boris said so and he is an expert and a nice chap cause he was on the telly a lot. Any organisation with a complicated supply chain is going to suffer, hell, even the quintessential British Burberry has most of its production in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Airbus leaving would be a disaster in itself, but replicated many times over would be utter catastrophe. You can’t easily replace those engineering skills or the infrastructure. When is this utter insanity going to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRB Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 It’s so depressing. Projects,partnerships and protocols built up over many years are being put at severe risk as being “the will of the people”. We are supposed to accept the bland assurances of the U.K. negotiators that acceptable agreements will be reached in a matter of months. Meanwhile any business must plan for the future. Unfortunately many politicians only look towards the next election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrider Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 It’s so depressing. Projects,partnerships and protocols built up over many years are being put at severe risk as being “the will of the people”. We are supposed to accept the bland assurances of the U.K. negotiators that acceptable agreements will be reached in a matter of months. I think Airbus is saying a matter of months is too late, hence why contingency plans to exit the uk are now being put into play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Cats Hat Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 I think Airbus is saying a matter of months is too late, hence why contingency plans to exit the uk are now being put into play. This is the thing which most Brextremists and even many Remainers just aren't getting. Modern industry (rather than trade) is highly complex and change takes time. This takes even more time when relocation is involved as moving people (or more often sacking people and hiring replacements) is not as easy as building a factory. At best it takes months but more usually years. And in the meantime productivity is greatly restricted. Does anyone seriously think that the shareholders of these companies are just going to sit around watching their profits fall while they wait for the clowns in Downing Street to come up with a plan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzijlstra Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 This is the thing which most Brextremists and even many Remainers just aren't getting. Modern industry (rather than trade) is highly complex and change takes time. This takes even more time when relocation is involved as moving people (or more often sacking people and hiring replacements) is not as easy as building a factory. At best it takes months but more usually years. And in the meantime productivity is greatly restricted. Does anyone seriously think that the shareholders of these companies are just going to sit around watching their profits fall while they wait for the clowns in Downing Street to come up with a plan? 4 million parts in an Airbus 380. Tens of thousands in a Range Rover or Mini. Supply chains are global, not national. So you’re Airbus and all of a sudden the hundreds of thousands of parts you get from the UK are potentially going to incur a tariff, on each part, plus you now pay a tarriff on the parts coming into the UK to make those other parts and on top of that there will be a delay of tose parts arriving just in time for assembly because you have to get clearance each time. Welcome to a nightmare. This is also the biggest value the single market has, this is why the EU leads on complex manufacturing by a country mile. Not important though, because the UK is going to compete with China, the US and the EU from now on and that will make things better somehow. Soon we will see what tariffs do when iPhones and other ‘US’ tech produced in China is going to go up in price due to Trump’s nationalist agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrider Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 This is the thing which most Brextremists and even many Remainers just aren't getting. Modern industry (rather than trade) is highly complex and change takes time. This takes even more time when relocation is involved as moving people (or more often sacking people and hiring replacements) is not as easy as building a factory. At best it takes months but more usually years. And in the meantime productivity is greatly restricted. Does anyone seriously think that the shareholders of these companies are just going to sit around watching their profits fall while they wait for the clowns in Downing Street to come up with a plan? No, but what can we do? Neither the government nor MPs will listen to reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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