The right to own a firearm.

[LeMaquis]

Terrorists will get arms from someone else if you know we're to look. I'm talking about personal protection.

 

Reminds me of Chris Kyle, the American Sniper, who lived to kill and was shot dead on a Texan gun range where they tend to believe in gun ownership for personal protection;

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jan/06/real-american-sniper-hate-filled-killer-why-patriots-calling-hero-chris-kyle

[TORONTONY]

But it's written in the United.States constitution we have the right to protect ourselves. Why shouldn't the UK have the same right less Police about on the beat.

 

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Unless you live in Baltimore ,Detroit or Cleveland and a few other places dotted about. Why not book yourself an romantic holiday to Detroit ?

 

But what you fail to admit is, that gun crime is so prevalent in the US because of the ease of ownership of firearms, which shoots your argument right out of the air. Pardon the pun. Even in Canada , where gun ownership is disallowed , we still have gun crime because of our 3000 mile undefended border with the US. Canadian cops carry guns however. It is futile to compare any of those cities you mentioned with British cities , as there is no comparison whatsoever, when it comes to gun crime.

[Dales]

I often read online news about the UK it's seems to me crime is up ( get ready for the crime is down so need less Police gang to come out of hiding) often victim's of crime simply get a crime number and that's your lot my brother had this treatment after his car was broke in. Here in the United States under permit I can and do own a gun plus a member of National Rifles Association often practice out at a firing range.

 

In Texas if someone breaks into your home you have the right to protect you yourself and property as long the person breaking in is committing a crime is it time this right was given to UK citizens with the same guide lines? If Police cuts carry on as they are surely one has the right to protect himself against others who want to harm you and your family ?

 

Hi crookedspire, hope you are well.

Just a quick question regarding the crime number comment.

What if a crime occurs and there are no witnesses and no cctv etc. What do you expect the police to do? They don't know who did it anymore than you or me. If someone is suspected of committing the crime that is not enough to stand up in court.

[Guest sibon]

Terrorists will get arms from someone else if you know we're to look. I'm talking about personal protection.

 

And they are breaking the law simply by carrying one.

 

That makes it easier to arrest and prosecute potential terrorists.

[Cyclone]

I often read online news about the UK it's seems to me crime is up ( get ready for the crime is down so need less Police gang to come out of hiding)

Do you mean the "fact" gang. Who don't want to base an entire thread on your air headed wonderings?

often victim's of crime simply get a crime number and that's your lot my brother had this treatment after his car was broke in. Here in the United States under permit I can and do own a gun plus a member of National Rifles Association often practice out at a firing range.

Good for you. Do you know the chance of you being shot in the US, guess how much higher it is than in the UK?

 

In Texas if someone breaks into your home you have the right to protect you yourself and property as long the person breaking in is committing a crime is it time this right was given to UK citizens with the same guide lines? If Police cuts carry on as they are surely one has the right to protect himself against others who want to harm you and your family ?

No, nobody in their right mind would want the UK to follow the US.

The rate of murders is one of the highest in the western world. The chance of being killed with your own gun is far higher than ever defending yourself.

Toddlers routinely kill their parents by accident, and school and university massacres seem to happen about every 6 months.

The NRA somehow always answers this with "more guns". Clearly more guns is not the answer.

And you know what else happens, if you're going to burgle a house in Texas, you go armed, and if you disturb the homeowner, you shoot him first. In Sheffield, not so much.

 

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Waiting for them to try it and prepared.

 

You're more likely to kill yourself or a friend by accident than to successfully defend yourself in some sort of Rambo fantasy.

[I1L2T3]

But it's written in the United.States constitution we have the right to protect ourselves. Why shouldn't the UK have the same right less Police about on the beat.

 

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Unless you live in Baltimore ,Detroit or Cleveland and a few other places dotted about. Why not book yourself an romantic holiday to Detroit ?

 

We protect ourselves with our fists buddy. It's the British way.

[crookedspire]

Hi crookedspire, hope you are well.

Just a quick question regarding the crime number comment.

What if a crime occurs and there are no witnesses and no cctv etc. What do you expect the police to do? They don't know who did it anymore than you or me. If someone is suspected of committing the crime that is not enough to stand up in court.

 

Hello their , Evidence from the crime scene would back up any claim be yourself it has happened here post mortem would offer more clues most houses here have cameras unless live really remote.

[Guest sibon]

We protect ourselves with our fists buddy. It's the British way.

 

I'm just wondering about the journey from Chessie to DC. That happened fast.

[crookedspire]

We protect ourselves with our fists buddy. It's the British way.

 

Perhaps but acesss to guns is more easily than one likes to admit.

[Dales]

Hello their , Evidence from the crime scene would back up any claim be yourself it has happened here post mortem would offer more clues most houses here have cameras unless live really remote.

 

Sorry I was referring to your brother having his car broken into. My fault entirely because I went off topic.

I personally would not like to own a firearm though.