Road resurfacing, Amey & Streets Ahead

[Bw19800]

Well the removal of surfaces in S6 has stopped, Marlcliffe Rd was to be resurfaced during the school holidays but as yet no sign of Amey.....

[bassett one]

if amey are not paying there bills they are insolvent and need to close down or the courts to close them

[Guest makapaka]

if amey are not paying there bills they are insolvent and need to close down or the courts to close them

 

Amen are not insolvent so that's not correct.

[Zarniwoop]

Plenty of tarmac in Handsworth, they've been working there most of last week.

[WasThatWise]

Ours scheduled middle to late July, no notices no nothing. S12

[dangerousedd]

they do seem to do the resurfacing in a haphazard manner, I assume they must have some sort of overall plan they're working to.

[carosio]

On most contracts like this the Stats (Gas ,Water, Leccy etc) are given advance notice that any planned works they have needs to be done prior to the resurfacing taking place after that they are not allowed access for planned works for an agreed timescale ,unfortunately if they have an emergency like a leak or broken cable they have to be allowed to dig. I think one of the problems is that the heavy and vibrating equipment used in the resurfacing process often causes problems with the old and decaying underground stats equipment and leaks etc. occur. Also its not unknown for stats to manufacture emergencies to get around the no dig scenario ,takes a brave man to tell, the gas board say, that they cant dig a hole to deal with a gas leak just because the road was only done last week .

I take your point, but what gets me is that the standard of repairs range from excellent to terrible, and where they are bad, nothing is done to put them right. Surely this should never have arisen if the utilities had been forced to adhere to certain standards at the outset of the contract?

[Planner1]

I take your point, but what gets me is that the standard of repairs range from excellent to terrible, and where they are bad, nothing is done to put them right. Surely this should never have arisen if the utilities had been forced to adhere to certain standards at the outset of the contract?

 

The standards that statutory undertakers have to reinstate to are nothing to do with the Amey contract. They are national standards. Those standards aren't all that good, so the stats can get away with what you and I might think are sub-standard reinstatements, because they do actually comply with the required standards and there's nothing the Council can do about it.

 

If you see something you think is bad, complain to the Council. They will check it out and let you know.

[carosio]

I suspected that something like that might be the case. All I can say is that the standards must be very low or the utilities have different ideas on what the standards are, or more likely do the minimum to get away with.

 

One would have thought that with the huge amount of money this is costing, and the fact (as you point out) that there is a disparity in the standards laid down between the road surfacing and the inevitable repairs, someone might have thought about it. Ah well, that's bureaucracy.

[1978]

I take your point, but what gets me is that the standard of repairs range from excellent to terrible, and where they are bad, nothing is done to put them right.

 

It's less than a year since Hathersage Road out to Fox House, Stony Ridge Road and Owler Bar Road were resurfaced. One stretch of Owler Bar Road has had to be redone at least twice since, and several other sections have been redone already.

 

That suggests to me that there are known quality issues and I can quite understand if Amey may have refused to pay bills until full remedial action is taken, be it for those sections or any others. Inevitably any dispute of that kind with a sub-contractor will delay the scheduled completion of the work.

 

The common denominator I've noticed in many of the poorly completed stretches is that they were done at night. That causes less disruption to traffic, but may not be getting us the quality of surface we need.