tinfoilhat Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 However it is also a chicken and egg situation. If something like relationship breakdown and financial difficulties result in someone ending up on the streets, then even if they didn't have mental health problems before being made homeless, they are at v. high risk of developing them as a consequence of being homeless. Even though it is known that ex - service personnel are at high risk of homelessness, it's shocking that support for this group is very patchy. I think support needs to be holistic so that there is professional support available (be it mental health, drug / alcohol rehab). Sadly these services have taken a huge hit since the credit crunch. I'm not going to disagree, hopefully they are going to get more mental health nurses in (how, God only knows - and that's if they do it and don't back out). As bad as things are now, it's still only half the number it was in 2004 https://fullfact.org/economy/homelessness-uk/ if the numbers are to be believed. It was pretty shocking that it took DIY SOS and two princes to get support for disabled servicemen in one city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 I'm not going to disagree, hopefully they are going to get more mental health nurses in (how, God only knows - and that's if they do it and don't back out). As bad as things are now, it's still only half the number it was in 2004 https://fullfact.org/economy/homelessness-uk/ if the numbers are to be believed. It was pretty shocking that it took DIY SOS and two princes to get support for disabled servicemen in one city. Yes I heard Jeremy Hunt saying they are going invest in m.h. nurses, however since 2010 there are 6.5 thousand fewer mental health nurses... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39836506 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phili Buster Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Perhaps you would comment on tax abuse, since it's an integral component of the argument? I have no intention of commenting on tax abuse within this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staunton Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 I have no intention of commenting on tax abuse within this thread. No worries. I'm content that you identified Amazon's tax arrangments as 'questionable'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted August 15, 2017 Author Share Posted August 15, 2017 Yes I heard Jeremy Hunt saying they are going invest in m.h. nurses, however since 2010 there are 6.5 thousand fewer mental health nurses... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39836506 What this government promises, and what it actually does, often bear no relation to each other. I'll believe it when it happens... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutch Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Yes I heard Jeremy Hunt saying they are going invest in m.h. nurses, however since 2010 there are 6.5 thousand fewer mental health nurses... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39836506 And a nurse is is just a nurse and earns peanuts. Cheap solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 If it had been the will of government homelessness would have been solved before either of us were born - dodgy taxes or not (and labours history on corporate tax avoidance isn't stellar either - for balance) - if that's even possible. A fair chunk of homeless people have pretty severe mental illness, drug abuse issues etc etc - unless you are going to lock them all up, they will end on the street at some point. I wasn't praising Labour, but they generally at least don't spend their time demonising and attacking the poor in society in order to make life easier for the corporations. They're financially inept, and just as authoritarian as the conservatives, I disagree with a lot of what they did and would like to do, but attacking the poor and disabled relentlessly whilst waging a campaign of disinformation, that's a conservative trait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 According to tonight's news there are now 68,000 homeless in Britain, a huge increase on previous figures. ...What is wrong with this country...? As the weather gets colder, no news about our countries growing problem. Just Googling the numbers Manchester, rough sleepers - 2013 > 70 2016 > 189 http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/number-people-sleeping-rough-greater-12504539 I understand that councils count rough sleepers, but how hard is that, I am sure that they try to get somewhere undercover and out of sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ez8004 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 I am not scapegoating migrants. I am using common sense and simple maths. If there is a housing crisis and we need to build over 300,000 homes over the next 10 years to keep up with demand. Why would we allow 500,000 people into the country each year? And, we dont have enough schools, hospital beds, public resources, police, prisons, energy resources, waste management....our country is crumbling under the pressure to keep up with our population explosion. What is this constant aim to increase the population of this country? We are a tiny island with over 3 times the population of Australia. Do the maths.....they dont add up. And im sick of people talking about migrants doing the jobs other dont want to do. If you stop letting in people by the millions then we only require so many jobs. Again.....SIMPLE MATHS Because a lot of migrants are skilled and are able to pay their own way. Why should the failures of society be given housing on a plate. I find it funny how people assume housing as an entitlement. If you don’t work enough to put a roof over your own head then stay at home. Go complain elsewhere, I would rather my tax money be spent on other things than give people what I earned. Life is unfair, deal with it. If you had any idea how the demographics of this country’s population works, then you’ll know that it isn’t the population as a whole that’s the problem we are facing. It’s the fact we have an accelerating aging population. We need the population to grow to increase the younger demographic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie Bynnol Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Because a lot of migrants are skilled and are able to pay their own way. Why should the failures of society be given housing on a plate. I find it funny how people assume housing as an entitlement. If you don’t work enough to put a roof over your own head then stay at home. Go complain elsewhere, I would rather my tax money be spent on other things than give people what I earned. Life is unfair, deal with it. If you had any idea how the demographics of this country’s population works, then you’ll know that it isn’t the population as a whole that’s the problem we are facing. It’s the fact we have an accelerating aging population. We need the population to grow to increase the younger demographic. Absolutely spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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